dr. ed chow, dr. james lawson were very open to that and i have checked out with the commission wally in terms of the proper procedures in order for us to conduct that one of the goals with a joint meeting with the health commissioners is information. all of the dialogue and information we have on the fire commission i'm not so sure they're a very of that in detail. as point of information as chief hayes-white indicate, 1997 is when we inherited ambulance services and there was a joint meeting between the fire ctmmission and heath commission to launch that particular program. there has been precedent set, i've been trying to find out the proper procedure a again dieing sunshine as to if myself and the vice president from this commission might be able to start conversations with the president and vice president to the joint meeting and start the dialogue in terms of what we're doing and what the cost is with that kind of endeavor. i also want to let you know that i have also reached out to two of the c