and dr. edin, laurie-anne's experience both in terms of the vita and non-vita sites and her and her daughter's experience with the eitc, is this ith consistent with the experiences of families you've spoken with through your work? >> so people love the symbolic act of filing our taxes with other taxpayers.b whether it is at a vita site or not, right? but the fees you pay at vita sites are meaningful and the temptation, of course, to get whatever it is called now, can't do a rapid refund but h&r block found a way around it, but the temptation paid a heavy price to get your refund early is real, hin especially when you have debt collectors breathing down your back, but the thing that i really heard laurie-anne say was, you know the relief of as, parental stress, the ways in in which the eitc can scaffold your efforts to make your child feel like an ordinary american kid yo are very, very consistent. and, again it is not like the is a ballet lessons or one meal at l red lobster a year is an extravaga

dr. edin laurie-anne's experience, both in terms of vita and non-vita sites at her and her daughters express with the eitc is this consistent with a lot of experiences of families you have spoken with through your work? >> so people love a symbolic act of filing their taxes with other taxpayers. whether it's having vita site or not, right? but the fees you pay at vita sites are meaningful and the temptation of course to get whatever it's called now you can do a rapid refund but h&r block has found a way around that, so the temptation to pay a very heavy price each summer your refund early is real, especially when your debt collectors breathing down your back. the thing that i've really heard laurie-anne say was you know the relief of parental stress, the ways in which the eitc can scaffold your efforts to make your child feel like an ordinary american kid are very, very consistent. and again, it's not like the ballet lessons or one meal at red lobster a year is an extravagant parental expendit

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