dr. emmanuel's suggestion you can keep your doctor if you're pailwilling to pay more, your comment is even paying more won't get you the doctor. >> right. you can't buy a better network. if you go online and look at plans, it's the same as the platinum plan. >> there won't be co-insure yavenlts >> wow. >> hits just keep on coming. good to see you, thank you. >> thanks a lot. >> well, and as mentioned we're going to have more with joe trippi later. this new claim, if you like the doctor, you can keep him. like another asterisk that is not offered on promises made. coming up when jp morgan agreed to pay the government a $13 billion settlement you might have thought taxpayers got that cash but wait until you see where it may be going instead and controversial hires but the obama administration. a look at what's happening at the department of homeland security tonight. plus, an espn reporter may have asked a star football player one too many questions about a recent rape investigation. the controversy continues. his reaction just ahead. >> now we're hearing they aren't the only ones potentiall

dr. emmanuel seemed to be lowering expectation. >> like goggle and facebook they are constantly improving and this one has a way to go. it is working reasonably well. >> reporter: that so manies to lower the bar a bit on how well it is really working. and republican law makers are not questioning whether the website is fixed, but wonder if people will be more frustrated when they so what the premiums will be. >> i don't know how you fix it. i will be honest. i don't know how to fix a program with only one side of the oifl and taking the short cuts to put it in place. >> reporter: today kathleen sebelius wrote, please do not give up and she understands that people are frustrated with the website. in the long run, the experience will be better and better for consumers and they will have more security. >> peter doocy just found this only momentsing on and sent it out to the folks in the fox news channel. that is just a jumble mess. >> reporter: peter went through the website and not just listening to the talking points. where you go through the experience as a consumer are, and not as a repo

dr. emmanuel, one of the architects of obama care. despite your differences on the law, apparently you are willing to talk the about it and willing to shoot down myths including which one tomorrow? >> we say we don't think there will be a doctor shortage. a lot of the impending shortage makes assumptions about today's productivity of physicians. there is every reason to believe resource use goes down including the amount of resources it takes to treat will be less because of technology. also doctors have become more productive. you can't make straight line assumptions from today. >> they have to be very productive. thank you. >> thanks. >> we just spoke about one of the president's most important health care promises. ahead we'll speak with one of the people who helped get president obama elected. how are the promises decided? bill burden is here live on "the kelly file." remember bill? stunning new polling next on america's place in the world. hi honey, did you get e toaster cozy? yep. got all the cozies. [ grandma ] with n fedex one

dr. exekiel emmanuel. >>> bernie you're the president of nbc. full power over sharpton. what do you do? >> i fire him. i won't have hired him but that doesn't mean that the people who run nbc or comcast by the way, the parent company are going to do that. every important democratic politician running for high office has to go to harlem and kiss al sharpton's ring, okay? everyone of them. they're concerned about him. they have to pay him respect. so if powerful politicians are doing that, are we supposed to believe phil griffin, the president of nbc and msnbc or people who run comcast aren't equally i'll use the word afraid of him? i think they are. who the hell knows what he is going to say next day after he gets fired? or what he's going to do? they're not going to take that chance, i don't think. >> if he were just a commontator did he do enough to be fired? putting his pressure and color aside did he do enough to be fired in your opinion? >> i would fire the producer to start with who made those kinds of editing mistakes. to call them mistakes is misleading they're attempts to deceiv

dr. ezekiel emmanuel, one of the main architects of obama care is adding a new and important caveat to that. watch. >> the president never said you were going to have unlimited choice of any doctor in the country. >> let me -- >> wait. he asked a question. if you like your doctor, can you keep your doctodoctor. >> he didn't say unlimited choice. >> did he say if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. >> yes. if you want to pay more for an insurance company that covers your doctor, you can do that. >> well. joe trippi is a former campaign manager for howard done dna and a fox news contributor. joe, here we go again. it's not period. it's asterisk. this isn't something people are like, oh, doctor, who cares? they care. their doctor, their children's doctor. the number of times we have seen explicit and material representations upon which the american public relied in supporting the law collapsed after the fact is really becoming disturbing. am i wrong? >> no. i don't think you are wrong. look, i don't think they benefit by continuing to say things like this. the fact is the president

dr. zeke emmanuel, and chair at university of pennsylvania, special adviser in the obama administration. these numbers becerra starts off with 1.2 million people. the words he uses. i don't understand twhi they use this language. 1.2 million people in america have gained health insurance coverage. we don't know that. because we don't know how far they have gone in the process. all the states. exchanges are using different definitions of enrolled. also 800,000 of the people got medicaid. that is not health insurance coverage. so, why, why do they not try to use, you know, as the the proponents of the program. why aren't they trying to use more accurate language and discussing it? first of all, medicaid is coverage. it does pay health bills. >> it is not insurance. not insurance. zeke, they're trying to blur the numbers together to make the insurance number look better than it is. right. we have shy of 400,000 people who have gotten private insurance through the exchanges. by the end of march there need to be 7 million people. the number the congressional budget office said would enroll. a

dr. zeke emmanuel, good to have you with us on "the ed show" tonight. appreciate it so much.hank you. >> thanks for having me. >> you bet. >>> coming up, republicans in the house are hungry for what? impeachment? yeah. they're talking about outer space and impeachment. but they won't come out and say it. still ahead. you can call bill o'reilly the christmas crusader. he and the governor of rhode island land in tonight's pretenders. next, i'm taking your questions live. ask ed live, coming up next here on "the ed show" on msnbc. we're right back. [ tires screech ] ♪ [ male announcer ] 1.21 gigawatts. today, that's easy. ge is revolutionizing power. supercharging turbines with advanced hardware and innovative software. using data predictively to help power entire cities. so the turbines of today... will power us all... into the future. ♪ every day we're working to and to keep our commitments. and we've made a big commitment to america. bp supports nearly 250,000 jobs here. through all of our energy operations, we invest more in the u.s. than any other place in the world. in fac

dr. emmanuel on saying this is about choice. no, it's not, it's about coercion.e freedom and choice and health care. fine, keep the obama care health plans in place. give those as an option for individuals. but we should also give individuals the freedom to choose a plan that doesn't have the mandate of coverages because that is what is driving up the cost. >> it doesn't work. >> it's not going to work anyway. but if you want to set this up as an insurance pool which means you're paying insurance and you're a man and you don't want to have paternity coverage, you've got to pay it too. that's the way it works out. and i'm not arguing whether this should have been done or not, that's the only way it works. >> it's not working out. >> but that's -- what you're talking about is -- >> does anybody believe the cost curve has been bent down? i mean -- >> there are arguments. i'm not picking up the flag and waving with this, but if you have peter orszag or somebody else come in, they will say, yes, it will bend. >> it is also because of what was happening with things lik

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dr. ezekiel emanuel, brother of rahm emmanuel, former chief of staff of the white house, a former medicine professor. what he says is if you like your doctor and you want to keep your doctor, you can pay more for insurance that includes your doctor. a lot of places, you can't even buy insurance that will cover that doctor. this isn't at all what the president promised. and it's interesting in the -- even the paper "the financial times" yesterday, health insurance cut costs by excluding top hospitals. so you can't even go to the hospitals. there is a picture here of m.d. anderson cancer center from the university of texas. plan will not cover treatment at houston cancer center. well, so if we have somebody who has lost their insurance who has been going to that cancer center where their doctors are and they are losing their insurance on january 1, not only can't you keep your doctor, you can't keep your hospital. we see children's hospitals around the country, people that are not going to be included in these exchanges. children with leukemia come january 1 losing their doctor, losing their