dr. emmert up a 65. i was in courage by your response to the chairman's question relative to their interests in addressing these issues. now, it's one thing to say that they are willing to do it and it's another thing to do it so we wish you success but we understand that you are the proposal. you are the initiator but they are the decision-makers. so i hope mr. chairman over some period of time hopefully relatively soon we can give them a positive result from that effort because i think that's really where these major issues fall. dr. emmert would you just give us one more shot at the ability to address what i think goes to the root of the problem but also to the root of the solution and that is the top 65 which are their revenue generators. what we don't want to jeopardize or the other 1000 or so that aren't ample at them in a situation where they won't be able to fulfill title ix or won't be able to fulfill the level of sports that gives some young people opportunities to participate in getting a coll

dr. emmert, walk out this door and fix that.'m troubled about when i hear the testimony today and i just need to understand, senator blumenthal asked about the change to an employer/employee model. we've talked about compensation potentially for athletes today. i don't want to see any athletes mistreated. i want them to be able to have a quality of life that's important as they serve and get the education and be able to be an athlete, the student athlete model. but as i think about what, for example, the nlrb did in its ruling, i know it applies to private universities allowing unionization at northwestern. and i think about this compensation model, the employer/employee model. what does this do in terms of the schools where we're not talking about the top athletes that may go on that are the revenue-generating sports. and what will that do to women's athletics if we start down the road of a compensation model, what will happen in our schools in terms of the schools that or the sports that aren't at the top where those athletes

dr. emmert, why wasn't this made public at the time? i think most of the universities would be embarrassed if they were publicly called out that they were unwilling to give a four-year scholarship to an athlete. why did it take a request from congress for this roll call for this to ever reach the light of day? i would ask for this list to be made part of the public record. >> so ordered. >> well, the data were made available to all of the membership -- >> i'm talking about to the public. why didn't you put it on the website? >> i'm not debating the fact. i don't simply know whether it was not put on the website. the debate was very public. it was obviously very disputed case. it's a very interesting debate. i was quite stunned by some of the argumentation. one of the things i didn't mention about change that i anticipate in the coming weeks, mr. branch pointed out something that's part of the olympic movement, olympic tradition now that in the united states that student athletes have to have a very -- not student athletes, olympic athle

dr. emmert, why wasn't this made public at the time? i think most of the universities would be embarrassed if they were publicly called out that they were unwilling to give a four-year scholarship to an athlete. why did it take a request from congress for this roll call for this to ever reach the light of day? i would ask for this list to be made part of the public record. >> so ordered. >> well, the data were made available to all of the membership -- >> i'm talking about to the public. why didn't you put it on the website? >> i'm not debating the fact. i don't simply know whether it was not put on the website. the debate was very public. it was obviously very disputed case. it's a very interesting debate. i was quite stunned by some of the argumentation. one of the things i didn't mention about change that i anticipate in the coming weeks, mr. branch.ed out something that's part of the olympic movement, olympic tradition now that in the united states that student athletes have to have a very -- not student athletes. olympic athletes h

dr. emmert has articulated well value the student athlete model rather than the employee/employer model, but the more the reality is that athletes in effect function as employees, the more the law will recognize that fact. my opinion is worth what you're paying for it. i'm just a country lawyer from connecticut, but i sincerely believe that that's the direction of the law. i want to first ask you, astonished and deeply troubled by the revelation that athletic departments on many campuses investigate -- i would like your commitment that you will work to change that practice as soon as possible and as effectively as possible. >> you have my commitment. i obviously want to understand the data more. i simply read a summary. i'm not sure what the facts are on those campuses. as i said earlier, the data that senator mccaskill's staff brought forward was shocking to meivities i am shocked and outraged by you apparent practice on many campuses with the effect of revictimizing survivors who may be in effect victims. . i want to focus for the moment on health insurance. you know, individual colleg

dr. emmert, of the 65. i was encouraged by your response to the chairman's question, relative to their interest in addressing these issues. it's one thing to say they're willing to do it, it's another thing to do it. we wish you success, but we understand that you're the proposal, you're the initiator, but they're the decision makers. so i hope, mr. chairman, over some period of time here, hopefully relatively soon, we can get a positive result from that effort. i think that's where the -- these major issues fall. but dr. emmerit, would you give us one more shot at the ability to address what i think goes to the root of the problem, but also the root of the solution. and that is that the top 65, which are the revenue generators, what we don't want to jeopardize are the other thousand or so that aren't, and put them in a situation where they won't be able to fulfill title ix or the level of sports that give so many young people opportunities to participate and get a college education at the same time. >> yes

dr. mark emmert is here to present the perspective of the colleges and universities that belong to the ncaa. i would thank you for testifying. you could have declined to do so, some do, but you didn't, and i'm grateful for that. i believe you were put at the helm of the ncaa because you have an impressive academic credentials and a sterling reputation. and i think that we all appreciate that you're extremely well compensated. your individual qualities are not what trouble me. i think i'm just very skeptical that the ncaa can never lift up to the lofty mission that you constantly talk about and which is written and printed in speeches and statements response to penn state this or that. nothing comes before education, he's always there, but the actions don't appear to be. i don't see how the ncaa will ever be capable of making a safe, good, education experience for students their number one priority. i want you to tell me that i'm wrong. that i am wrong and that i'm particularly wrong about the future. but i'll be a tough sale. i think we believe that the ncaa has largely been left to its own