dr. fleming, what do you think? mr. fleming: i'll keep it brief, the whole concept behind sustained growth rate, s.g.r., is that the government in its wisdom, its infinite wisdom, the government said, out in the future someplace, we're going to spend no more than this many dollars and the doctors have to get together among themselves and decide how to do that. the obvious thing occurred, how are doctors and hospitals going to be able to do that, anybody under part b. mr. akin: this is a conference call in mr. fleming: as far as i know, i was never invited to a conference call, never received an email, i went along practicing medicine. then we're told, all of a sudden, we're spending above the s.g.r. level. we can pick and choose a number out there that's going to be a goal and we're going to practice and spend less than that amount. that does not affect the day-to-day behavior inside the exam room, which is again why our bill, h.r. 3400, is so important, because it gets to the behavior and the decision making between the

dr. fleming. mr. fleming: yes. mr. gingrey: they can say to a company, gosh, i noticed you have a lot of your employees who have picked the high deductible low premium plan, these young workers that are just out of college or just out of high school. well, you know what, mr. employer, we're not going to approve that because we've decided that nobody can spend that much money out of pocket in any one year. that's one of our requirements. so you're going to have to come up with something entirely different and, yes, more expensive, and that's when what representative fleming was saying, mr. speaker, the employer's going to say, you know what, it's not worth it to me. heck, i'll just pay the 8% fine for each of these employees and i'll let them go into this government plan. so you talking about if you like what you got you can keep it, you can keep it until you can't keep it. that's going to be in 2013. mr. fleming: will the gentleman yield for just a moment? mr. gingrey: yes, of course. mr. fleming: this, according to ou

dr. fleming for being here. mr. thompson: i want to thank my good friend from illinois and good friend from louisiana for being here tonight and the constitution, when we were sworn in back in january, we placed our hand on the table, we swore to uphold and defend that constitution. one of the first responsibilities is for common defense. and i think that is the most important responsibility that we have as members of congress is safety and security. and this is all about safety and security. frankly, history shows and we know that a strong defense is a strong deterrent. we want peace. we pray for peace. i long for a day when the whole world is at peace, but we need a strong defense to achieve peace and i'm hopeful we will see the day and i believe it was the president of israel who longs for a day while rising out of the desert, we see buildings and not missles and we know that the economic impact that we have peace that we can all secure. mr. shock, thank you for coordinating this evening. mr. shock: mr. speaker,

dr. fleming and i both thought that that provision.immediate family have to be in and government option, no other choices. [applause] no special attending physician at the capitol, no special privileges at military hospitals, nothing else. the government auction. -- the government option. charlotte, anything else to add? >> that is all i wanted to hear. >> john has often the same thing on the house side. >> thank you, david. i set forth house resolution 615, which some of you may be aware of. it simply says that if you vote for a government-run health care system, and you in congress are willing to forgo the waiver in this bill and you will sign up for yourself. as david pointed out, he often said the senate version. to date, we have over 500,000 americans who are encouraging their representatives to do the same. we have 70 fonder -- congressman, including the gentleman behind me, who are also co-authors. i have reached out to every single democrat and house, including nancy pelosi, and not yet one has been willing to sign up. ba[booin

dr. fleming and i both thought that that provision. -- authored that provision. on the senate side, that will be my first amendment on the senate floor. if there is any government option in the bill, anything like that, then every house member, every senator, all of their immediate family have to be in and government option, no -- that government option, no other choices. [applause] no special attending physician at the capitol, no special privileges at military hospitals, nothing else. the government auction. -- the government option. charlotte, anything else to add? >> that is all i wanted to hear. >> john has often the same thing on the house side. >> thank you, david. i set forth house resolution 615, which some of you may be aware of. it simply says that if you vote for a government-run health care system, and you in congress are willing to forgo the waiver in this bill and you will sign up for yourself. as david pointed out, he often said the senate version. to date, we have over 500,000 americans who are encouraging their representatives to do the same. w

dr. john fleming, and he's a new member of congress, great ideas, another member in our congress is dr. phil gingrey, who we are just so proud of for his courage he offered an amendment in his committee that would keep illegal aliens from having access to taxpayer subsidized health care. president obama told america that illegal aliens will not receive taxpayer subsidized health care. that was after the democrats in this body rejected dr. gingrey's amendment that would have denied taxpayer subsidized coverage to illegal aliens. we have a lot we can talk about, i want to turn over to my colleague, john fleming. mr. fleming: i thank my colleague, gentlewoman bachmann, for providing leadership in this hour and particularly on this subject of health care. you know, mr. speaker, there's really a fundamental economic that i think we always have to go back to. i practiced family medicine for over 30 years, still practice from time to time. there's something very important that we all need to learn, that is that, yes, medicare and medicaid is government-run health care. if you ask the average p

dr. john fleming.ght frame of heart by standing up again, if you can, for a prayer? and please remain standing immediately following the prayer. we will have the pledge of allegiance to the flag, but first, we will be led in prayer by the reverend al carter, from louisiana. reverend? >> heads bowed and eyes closed. father, forgive us of our sins of commission and omission, and help us to let go of sin and to forgive one another, because we know, lord, that you will not forgive us unless we forgive of the recipien -- and as we forgive others. we know that your words says that the heart of the king is in the hand of the lord. you will turn this whichever way that you will, and we pray that that you will, and we pray that this will be healthy and let us remember that the healing of man is still in your hands. we pray for all that argued today and the families and the community. we pray that where there is sickness, there be healing. where there is poverty, let there be prosperity. where there is ignorance