dr. fredric wertham, who wrote a really influential book called seduction of the innocent in 1954, and heuggested, among other things, that comic books were a negative-- had a negative impact on kids,

dr. fredric wertham, who wrote a really influential book called seduction of the innocent in 1954, and he suggested, among other things, that comic books were a negative-- had a negative impact on kids, that it encouraged juvenile delinquency and put bad thoughts in their heads-- kind of--many of the same arguments you kind of hear today about video games, and he got a lot of attention. carmine, you were an artist in the industry at that time. do you remember wertham? do you have a sense of him? yeah, we got a sense of him when they first hit the airwaves, and suddenly we were being attacked all over the place, and i'm looking under the desk for what i was doing wrong. i couldn't figure it out, but it got pretty bad, and then, all of the sudden, kefauver jumped into the picture. estes kefauver. yeah, he wanted to be president at that time. so he found a great vehicle here, and he jumped in, and all of the sudden, the attack got vicious, and the people who were distributing books got very nervous, and they started slinging comic books back at us, and we were getting returns up to 90%, 95%.