dr. frieden. dr. frieden, as dr. varga just stated, health care personnel were following cdc protocols while treating mr. duncan. which includes the use of pce, personal protective equipment. do the cdc guidelines, your guidelines, on the use of p.p.e. mirror current international standards that, by the way, are being adhered to, those international standards, in west africa in those three countries, sierra leone, gunea and liberia? >> the international standards are something that evolve and change. we use different p.c.e. in different settings. there's no single right answer, and this is something we're looking at very closely. our current guidelines are kent with recommendations from the world health organization. >> i would think there would need to be, dr. frieden, and i commend you for the job that you are doing, and i know these are tough times for all of us, butt we need, and that brings me to my next question and my last question. again, it's to you, dr. frieden. this issue of elevated temperature, you know,

dr. frieden, i've got some questions for you and dr. varga for you and i appreciate yes or no answers because i have a lot to move through and only a short amount of time. dr. frieden, in the spring of 2014, ebola began spreading through west africa causing increasing concern within the international public health community, correct? >> correct. >> ebola has an incubation period of about 21 days and is not contagious until the person with the virus begins to be symptomatic, beginning often with a fever, correct? >> between two and 21 days, yes. >> ebola is transmitted through contact with a patient's bodily fluids including vom police, blood, feces and saliva and concentrates heavily as the patient becomes sicker presenting increasingly greater risk to those who may come in contact with 24ethem, contract? >> correct. the cdc has developed guide loans if patients present with symptoms of ebola and distributed them to hospitals around the country in the summer of 2014, correct? >> correct. >> now, dr. varga, can you hear me? >> yes, ma'am

dr. frieden is with us, and dr. varga will be with us by video, because it would be an understatement to say that the response to the first u.s.-based patient with ebola has been mismanaged, causing risks to scores of additional people. i know both of these gentlemen will be transparent and forthright in helping me to understand how we can improve our response, when yet another person shows up at the emergency room with these kind of symptoms. i appreciate the steps taken by cdc and customs to begin airport screenings, and as some call for cutting off all travel as the chairman said this won't be reasonable -- >> dr. sparro as we listen to the testimony, clearly there is anger, but walk us through what the public should be thinking right now, versus what it may be thinking. we're talking about a situation in the united states right now, where there may be less than a number of cases of people that might be sitting around your kitchen or living room table for dinner. so we're not talking about a wide-spread outbreak

dr. frieden, lastly. you know, there again, i'm speaking on behalf of my constituents and every american in this country. i don't believe it is acceptable that the quote you have given us. we won't be able to track them as the reasoning for why we should not implement travel restrictions. i do believe we can. and, mr. wagner, as far as our customs and border patrol, do you believe there's a way that we can implement tracking? >> tracking? >> tracking of individuals. >> yeah, we have ways to determine a person's itinerary and travel. it's easier when they're coming on a direct ticket from those -- >> true. true. but as you pointed out, they're coming from -- thank you, mr. chairman. i thank you for indulging my overtime. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i appreciate you holding this hearing. and i want to thank all of the panelists for coming and participating. and i've talked to arm in of health care professionals, as well. and listening to the panel, as well. i want to join in instituting a travel ban until s

dr. frieden. i hand the lineback over to you. >> thank you very much, and thank you for all the team is doing there in texas. it's an slept working relationship and we value it greatly. before we turn to questions we'll comment that the situation is fluid and we'll continue to update you as we get more information. >> doctor, you spoke about the possibility of further infections. is that because there is a known safety procedure or protocol that perhaps was not followed. and my follow-up question is if you cannot pin point a breach in protocol how do you move forward in fortification. >> if we knew the single incident, such as a needle stick, then we could narrow down the exposure. since we do know what the exposure was, then we have to cast the net more widely and see in terms of monitoring--monitor a larger proportion of the health wear workers and in terms of infection control protocols or procedures improve every aspect of those procedures every time we see something that could be improved. so

dr. frieden. the first, the support from the cdc, not only overnight but over the last several weeks, we have been working throughout the night trying to gather more information as we get more information that is appropriate, we will provide information. but as dr. frieden noted, we have one healthcare worker. the healthcare worker that had extensive contact did do what was appropriate with early symptoms and to be checked. we did the ebola test. >> cam back. as dr. frieden noted. it was positive. it was appropriate, the amount of virus in her blood it came back. it is a positive. it's our responsibility to get with this individual and the family. healthcare worker who is willing to compassionately care for mr. duncan and was involved with him. we are working to prevent this. we are refining it now. as dr. frieden noted, the 48 original continued to be monitored and doing well. we have this one healthcare worker now, these am, as dr. frieden noted, we are going to have to continue to monitor healt

dr. frieden. they have been going at it. they're still going at it with him and asking him lots of questions. >> okay. we're going to work on getting him back up. okay. i'm going to pause and bring in a doctor who is with me on set. it's live tv. what are you going to do? you are with nyu med center. listening to it and talking about travel bans and preparedness and ppes. you felt bad for dr. frieden as well. >> he's done a good job of keeping the american public up to date on what's going on. he doesn't have all of the answers. no one does but he's keeping everyone involved. i didn't feel surprised by the hearing. one thing that i think looking at all of this is just in terms of incentives for the hospital. there's a few things. they don't have an incentive to be up to date with protocols because in order to do all of these drills and to be totally prepared, they really have to take their doctors and nurses and everybody and move them into actually these drills and not taking care of patients. >> let me jump in to connect t

dr. frieden?re -- therefore well, the federal government has to keep ebola victims out of public arena. that means, and i'm speaking slowly for the doctor, no people from the epidemic area should be admitted to the usa. something frieden opposes, but is absolutely the correct thing to do. >> we need a plan to treat those who are sick, to train health care workers to safely provide care and to stop the spread of this disease here at home and at the source in africa. this includes travel restrictions or bans from that region beginning today. >> even president obama's acolytes are saying that. >> i think the substantive actions have to be taken and they may involve, you know, flight restrictions. >> not only flight restrictions. no admittance to any person holing passports from the ebola epidemic areas. i mean, you could fly to montreal and drive in so the no admittance until we get things sorted out is the right thing on do. finally, i have nothing personally against dr. frieden, but his performance

dr. frieden, and everybody else. thank you so much for having the press conference. dr. frieden, can you tell fus the dallas patient is receiving any other medicine besides the supportive care? >> i did not hear the specifics of the question. is he receiving -- what did you ask? >> pkm ebola or any other medicines besides supportive care? >> as long as we know, experimental medicine is not being used. as i mentioned earlier the medication that you mentioned can be quite difficult for the patients to take the, and may transiently worsen the condition, so it is really up to the treat iing physicians, himself, the family of what treatment to take. s supportive care, managing fluids, supporting the patient's vital functions, and these are all critical issues to be addressed. next question on the phone? >> our next question is from donnie young with script news. thank you. >> thank you for taking my call. i had a question about why you have a difference of the physician expose d in sierra leone being monitored an treated at the nih as op poposed to the duncan family in france

dr. frieden also said. it was that i believe it was earlier this week he noted that knowing what he knows now about the situation in the hospital, he indicated that he regretted not sending a team of experts to that hospital sooner to assist the hospital as they responded to this specific diagnosis. what are you are seeing from the federal government, however, it's the kind of tenacious response that reflects evolving circumstances. dr. frieden indicated that if -- that this protects the health and safety of the american public. there are other ways in which this has happened as well. you know, we have adapted to

dr. frieden, they said that would be cdc. i understand all of your reasons why i don't agree with them completely. i understand the concerns about humanitarianism, et cetera. but don't you think we ought to at least restrict travel of dogs? is. >> we'll follow-up in terms of what's possible and indicate it. >> mr. yar dsz mouth, for five minutes. >> thank you. i would like to submit for the record an article entitled "will america's fragmented public health system meet the ebola challenge?" mark rothstein who is head of the bio -- >> i'm gretchen carlson. welcome to the abriefated version of "the real story." has this entire hearing gone to the dogs? as you just heard, that last question from one of the members of congress asking the cdc director tom frieden what about dogs? can dogs carry the virus? can dogs get the virus? can dogs give the virus to humans? didn't get the full answer on that, but we've been watching this for the last couple of hours. we're going to continue to watch this, but we're going to step out of it fo

dr. frieden and maybe first two dr. varga. as we know from reports yesterday, a second health-care worker has contracted ebola, ms. amber vinson. now that she has received treatment at emory university in atlanta, we must examine the protocol breakdowns that resulted in the contraction of people of by these two nurses -- contraction of ebola by these two nurses who were treating, stumping -- treating thomas duncan. written test your them in a you say that the first two contracted, ebola was using full protective measures under the cdc protocol while treating mr. duncan. has your organization in texas identified where the specific breaches in protocol were that , orlted in her infection alternatively, the inadequacy of the protocol? dr. varga, that question is for you. >> thank you, sir. we are investigating currently of this exposure and the contraction of the illness. inhave confirmed that nina, care with mr. duncan, was wearing protective patient equipment through the whole period of time, and as dr. frieden already mentione

dr. frieden is vowing that won't happen again. people with ebola won't be able to jump on a commercial plane. this latest patient success transported today to atlanta to emory university hospital there, emory is one of four hospitals in the united states certified to treat ebola patients, and also where three ebola patients have been treated. meantime back to the white house, president obama is actually postponing his campaign trips today to both new jersey and connecticut in order to stay put to meet this next hour with high level government agencies who are coordinating the government's response here to ebola. so let's get right to dallas to kick this coverage off to elizabeth cohen. as i mentioned, lots of moving parts on this story right now. let's begin with this 29-year-old health care worker there from the hospital in front of where you stand, who is she. how did this happen? >> reporter: her name is amber vincent. as you said she's a 29-year-old nurse, brooke. we don't know much more than that except we do know she's movin

dr. frieden and maybe first two dr. varga. as we know from reports yesterday, a second health-care worker has contracted ebola, ms. amber vinson. now that she has received treatment at emory university in atlanta, we must examine the protocol breakdowns that resulted in the contraction of people of by these two nurses -- contraction of ebola by these two nurses who were treating, stumping -- treating thomas duncan. written test your them in a you say that the first two contracted, ebola was using full protective measures under the cdc protocol while treating mr. duncan. has your organization in texas identified where the specific breaches in protocol were that , orlted in her infection alternatively, the inadequacy of the protocol? dr. varga, that question is for you. >> thank you, sir. we are investigating currently of this exposure and the contraction of the illness. inhave confirmed that nina, care with mr. duncan, was wearing protective patient equipment through the whole period of time, and as dr. frieden already mentione

dr. frieden, i was really very encouraged. it's too bad it didn't start 14 days ago, but it has started. and it looks like if this is the approach that's going to be taken, i really don't think we have too much more to worry about. >> he's talking about implementing a buddy system where doctors can watch each other. doctors dealing with ebola patients and training, and sending a team of experts to hospitals where ebola patients are. so some new measures in place in the wake of what we've seen with thomas duncan as well as nina fam the nurse. robert murphy, thank you so much for coming on and talking with us and sharing your perspective. >>> and we're also following major developments out of iraq at this hour. isis terrorists have surrounded another iraqi air base and preparing to launch an attack. this while president obama meets with leaders of 20 other nations on how to deal with a terrorist group. this is cnn's special coverage. ♪ [ male announcer ] you wouldn't ignore signs of damage in your home. are you sure you're not i

dr. frieden was being completely transparent. first, he said all the folks exposed to the original ed bo la patient were being monitored. and none had a fever. >> we surged our response so we've tracked every one of those 48 patients in conjunction with the folks in texas, those contacts of the initial patient, every day they've been tracked. none of them have a fever. >> but dr. frieden left out the fact that 76 other people who had initial contact with the patient were left to "self-monitor." and one of those people, a nurse, not only had a fever but had been admitted to that same texas hospital yesterday morning. now through a spokesman tonight he told us he didn't know about her fever until overnight last night after his appearance on "the kelly file." why not? and how could that be possible if as just broke this evening before we came to air the cdc told this nurse on monday that she could fly despite a fever. his underlings knew and either they didn't tell him or he didn't tell us last night. then we challenged whether the

dr. frieden, i hand the line back over to you. thanks. >> thank you very much, dr. lakey, and thank you for all what the team is doing there in texas. it's an excellent working relationship and we value it greatly. before turning to questions, i will say that the situation is fluid and we'll continue to update you as we get more information. >> doctor, you spoke about the possibility of further infections. is that because there's a known safety procedure or protocol that was not followed? and if you cannot pinpoint the breach in protocol, how do you move forward with education? >> if we knew that there was a specific incident, such as a needle stick, that would indicate that we could narrow it down the health care workers at risk for those who had that specific exposure. since we don't know what the exposure was but know there was an exposure, we have to cast the net more widely and see in terms of monitoring, monitor a larger proportion of the health care workers and make sure the procedures and protocol improve every aspect of those procedures every time we see so

dr. frieden. the department of homeland security is focused on protecting the air traffic public and taking steps to ensure that passengers with communicable diseases like ebola are screened, isolated, and quickly and safely referred to medical personnel. we have implemented a range of measures to ensure a layered approach. to date the existing measures in place include issuing "do not board" orders to airlines if cdc and the department of state determine a passenger is a risk to the traveling public. two, providing information and guideness about ebola to the airlines. three, posts notices at airports to raise awareness about ebola. and fourth, providing a health notice commonly referred to as a tear sheet to travelers entering the united states that have traveled from or transited through the affected countries. but with information and instructions should there be concern of possible infection. we are announcing -- we have announced today enhanced measures. specifically the enhanced screening w

dr. tom frieden, be fired?ld us october 2nd essentially any hospital in the country can take care of ebola. he went on to explain all you need is a private room, hospitals they have training, there's little risk to the population. any advanced hospital has the capacity to isolate a patient. they just need a room and a private bathroom. should he be fired? >> take a combat leader out in the middle of a fight is outrageous. it is absolutely irresponsible. >> combat leader? he's a combat loser. >> not only did he do that, he blamed the nurses. >> let me finish my point. not only should he not be fired, we need a surgeon general in the united states. why don't we have a surgeon general? if the president's nominee is unacceptable, what the president has to do is appoint an ebola czar right now. tom frieden, head of one agriculture dealing with this, is not sufficient. you need an ebola czar. the man we should appoint is lieutenant general russell henri who headed up the united states army, big run one. he brought ca

dr. thomas frieden, the director for the centers for disease control and prevention. sylvia burwell, the secretary of health and human resources. i want to bring in our chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta. for our viewers, update us on what we've just learned. it's pretty dramatic stuff. >> it is. we know that a second patient has been diagnosed with ebola, another health care worker, at the same hospital. the person who had extensive contact as it was described with mr. duncan. you remember he was the first patient to be diagnosed with ebola. so this is a nurse, sounds like, that was infected and it sounds like is ill. doing okay but pretty ill. and remember she was just diagnosed over the last several hours. so it sounds like she has progressed a bit over the last several hours. i think what is most salient here is that she is going to be transferred, it sounds like, to the emory university hospital in atlanta. this is something that has come up back and forth. you remember dr. frieden has said hospitals anywhere in the country should be able to take care o

dr. frieden and dr. fauci, they need to pipe down. they need a czar to do the messaging. it's one step forward and two steps back. they need a czar. >> is there anybody in particular? >> absolutely. harold bench. he's from green county, springfield, missouri. he has a 30-year history in public health. he knows. and if asked, he will do it. >> i'm almost afraid to ask you this question because you were so right in your predictions when other people were even attacking you for suggesting that it was going to be much worse than the government was telling us. for those that don't remember dr. mobley put on a full hazmat suit, goggles, full gear and had on the back the cdc's lying and you walks through hartsfield airport in atlanta. i'm a little hesitant to ask you what you see coming next? >> i don't know what's keeping this out of every third world countries in the world. and don't forget we live in one of the biggest third world countries in the world. >> you're talking about new mexico. >> absolutely. it's going to devastate them. >> and they're going to race over our bord

dr. frieden. the department of homeland security is taking steps to ensure that passengers with communicable diseases like ebola are screened, isolated, and quickly and safely referred to medical personnel. we have implemented a range of measures to ensure a layered approach. to date, the existing measures in place include issuing "do not board" orders to airlines if cdc and the department of state determine a passenger is a risk to the traveling public. two, providing information and guidance about ebola to the airlines. three, posting notices at airports to raise awareness about ebola. and fourth, providing a health notice commonly referred to as a tear sheet to travellers entering the united states that have travelled from or transited through the effected countries. with information and instructions should there be concern of possible infection. we are announcing -- we have announced today -- enhanced measures. specifically the enhanced screening will consist of targeted questions, temperature

dr. frieden. dr. frieden, as dr. varga just stated, health care personnel were following cdc protocols while treating mr. duncan, which include the use of so-called ppe, personal protective equipment. do the cdc guidelines, your guidelines on the use of ppe mirror current international standards that, by the way, are being adhered to, those international standards in west africa in those three countries, sierra leone, guinea and liberia? >> the international standards are something that evolve and change. we use different ppe in different settings. there's no single right answer. and this is something we're looking at very closely. our current guidelines are consistent with recommendations from the world health organization, is my understanding. >> yeah. i would think that there would need to be a, dr. frieden, i commend you for the job you're doing. and i know these are tough times for all of us, but i think some consistency is what we need. and that brings me to my next question. and my last question. and, again, t

dr. frieden, the head of the centers for disease control said duncan is not being treated with experimental medication at this time. frieden said while experimental pred sin is promising there's certain it can initially make someone sicker. the four family members who shared an apartment with duncan are still in quarantine in a prouft home in dallas. they have shown no 1i789s. a hazmat team decontaminated the apartment. the cdc is confident they will stop the ebola virus in dallas thanks in large part to their ability to track everybody who may have been in contact with duncan. 48 people are being checked for fevers over the course of 21 days. 10 of those people definitely came into contact with duncan and are considered high risk but so far no one is showing any symptoms. meanwhile, dallas police say they have found one of those 48 people who went missing after his temperature was taken yesterday. michael lively, a homeless man, was considered low risk. authorities are working on a court order to hold him. yesterday dr. rick sacra was admitted to a boston area hospital. doctors say he is b

dr. frieden to resign. why?hing that's been happening with this ebola outbreak and the way that the cdc has been handling. dr. frieden said that this was a problem in west africa put all the resources, cdc and the web site said august 6th in two or three months have things under control. quote: well, it's two or three months later. we don't have everything under control. we have patients coming over here. we have people coming through the border. one case in dallas has created chaos. is he criticizing protocols. what protocols. it's his protocols now that is he going to revise one more time. we are not equipped to handle ebola patients in general. you feel his stewardship has failed? >> completely. >> reason i'm down on dr. frieden is he continues to put out the myth that stopping west africans from coming in here to the united states is somehow going to diminish fight the disease in africa. that's false. we can charter people in that's the way they should go anyway watch them closely when they come back out. it

dr. frieden and dr. frieden will stay with us during the question and answer period and with that we'd like to turn to questions from the media. yes. >> can you speak a little louder? [ inaudible ]. >> yeah, i'll give you as much information as i have. as i said at the outset this is an evolving situation in which we are still interviewing people including talking to the patient and i'll echo what everyone else has said that we are all -- our main focus, of course, on the recovery of that patient. s bowling ailingly was called the gutter bowling alley. the patient went with friends there and he did bowl while he was there according to our understanding of events. the patient was not feeling, you know, although he reported fatigue, he was not symptomatic. he had no fever and as dr. frieden has explained, we are very clear that people become contagious as they become sick. so his first fever, in fact, was today earlier this -- in the late morning today. and he did have a fever for -- or did not have a fever

dr. thomas frieden, the head of the cdc because he opposes that last night on the kelly file dr. den was almost incoherent. >> why not put a travel ban in place until we have shorn up the system? >> above all do no harm. if we do things that are going to make it harder to stop the epidemic there, it's going to spread to other parts. >> how is it going to make it harder to stop it over there. >> because you can't get people in and out? >> why can't we have charter flights. >> you know are charter flights don't do the same thing commercial airliner does? >> what do you they fly in and y out. >> if we isolate these countries what's not going to happen is disease spreading there we will be at higher risk. >> does that make any sense to anybody? anybody? it is just ridiculous. the man is spouting nonsense. >> his explanation, like previous ones that have been given for the reason for not imposing a travel ban in order to keep people from those infected areas out of this country for the time being i thought makes no sense. >> and there could be even a more frightening scenario on the ho

dr. frieden?> the reality is i knew that nurses were following the protocol and that nurses were working hard to follow the protocol. i think one of the things that has to happen now is we have to understand exactly what went wrong here and we need to share that with every nurse and with every healthcare provider. we're in a situation where we need to rapidly learn and understand how to keep patients safe, how to keep the healthcare provider safe. >> you know they are looking into that for anyone that can come into contact one of these patients. there's only a handful of hospitals in this country that are specifically set up for and trained to handle ebola patients. do you think any and all of those patients heaven forbid there are more, should be transferred to one of those hospitals specifically? >> well, there's two things we have to work on with ebola. one, we know that these patients can show up in any healthcare setting. we need to make sure that every healthcare provider is prepared to rapi

dr. frieden. the department of homeland security is focused on protecting the air traveling public and is taking steps to ensure that passengers with communicable diseases like ebola are screened, isolated and safely and quickly referred to medical personnel. we have implemented a range of measures to ensure a layered approach. to date, the existing measures in place include issuing do not board to airlines and cdc if it is determined that the passenger is a risk to the traveling public. two, providing information and guidance about ebola to the airlines. three, posting notices at airports to raise awareness about ebola and, fourth, providing a health notice commonly referred to as a care fleet to travelers entering the united states that have traveled from or transited through the infected countries. with information and instructions should there be concern of possible infection. we are announcing -- we have announced today enhanced measures. specifically, the enhanced screening will consist of t

dr. frieden be fired? >> absolutely. when he first offered these false assurances to the united states, he knew they were a lie because how can hospitals in the united states that cannot stop the spread of staph and other common infections that kill 75,000 people a year in our hospitals, how can they possibly control ebola? >> doctor, look, i don't think he has any credibility. he can't be a credible spokesman on this issue any longer. he's been so wrong. and as recently as october 5th. >> sean, here's the thing i'm most concerned with as the surgeon general. there was an assumption that all the work we did in the last decade regarding preparedness after 9/11 which included biopreparedness for all of these agents that we're running into today that in fact all the hospitals we're trained and we're practicing and doing all these scenarios we're supposed to do. if this hospital was having these problems then it is really incumbent upon us that to not assume that for every other hospital and make sure the integrity of our sy

dr. frieden was not even certain of that. >> she was not properly gowned. nurses have made clear they don't believe she was. thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> my next guest supports the cdc director. he's known as an international expert in patient safety and served in a leadership role at the united nations world health organization. doctor, good to see you tonight. so when i had the doctor on my program on tuesday, i said to him i get that your heart is in the right place. i get you've devoted your life to try to protect the american people from things like this. but how do we get anywhere towards shoring up the system without identifying the flaws and owning them? that's the piece we have yet to hear from the cdc. >> you're absolutely right, megyn. we need to learn from the mistakes that have been made. and i think tom frieden, he's a good guy, i've met with him. he's conscientious. hospitals can be messy when it comes to protocols. basically we've had a string of communication breakdowns at many different levels. and that's unfortunately part o

dr. frieden, and dr. frieden will stay with us during the question and answer period and with that we'd like to turn to questions from the media. yes. [ inaudible ] >> can you speak a little louder? >> yeah. [ inaudible ] [ inaudible ] >> yeah, i'll give you as much information as i have. as i have said at the outset, this is an evolving situation in which we are still interviewing people including talking to the patient, and i'll echo what everyone else has said that we are all -- our main focus, of course, is on the recovery of that patient. the bowling alley was in the williamsburg section of brooklyn. it's called the gutter bowling alley. the patient went there with friends there, and he did bowl while he was there according to our understanding of events. the patient was not feeling -- you know, although he reported fatigue, he was not symptomatic. he had no fever, and as dr. frieden has explained, we are very clear that people become contagious as they become sick. so his first fever, in fact, was to

dr. frieden also said.t was that i believe it was earlier this week he noted that knowing what he knows now about the situation in the hospital, he indicated that he regretted not sending a team of experts to that hospital sooner to assist the hospital as they responded to this specific diagnosis. what are you are seeing from the federal government, however, it's the kind of tenacious response that reflects evolving circumstances. dr. frieden indicated that if -- that this protects the health and safety of the american public. there are other ways in which this has happened as well. you know, we have adapted to circumstances by beefing up airport screenings, for example, that into place at 5 airports across the country. . these are airports that cover essentially 95% of the arrivals of travellers from -- that started out in west africa. those improved or strengthened screening measures are indicative of our commitment to constantly evaluating our policies and where possible, putting ins place measures that

dr. thomas frieden, the head of the cdc because he opposes that last night on the kelly file dr. den was almost incoherent. >> why not put a travel ban in place until we have shorn up the system? >> above all do no harm. if we do things that are going to make it harder to stop the epidemic there, it's going to spread to other parts. >> how is it going to make it harder to stop it over there. >> because you can't get people in and out? >> why can't we have charter flights. >> you know are charter flights don't do the same thing commercial airliner does? >> what do you they fly in and y out. >> if we isolate these countries what's not going to happen is disease spreading there we will be at higher risk. >> does that make any sense to anybody? anybody? it is just ridiculous. the man is spouting nonsense. >> his explanation, like previous ones that have been given for the reason for not imposing a travel ban in order to keep people from those infected areas out of this country for the time being i thought makes no sense. >> and there could be even a more frightening scenario on the ho

dr. frieden, you were quoted this morning in the "times" and i wanted to talk to you. you said dr. frieden's job is like being on a battlefield. what do you mean by that? >> this security and health are now intertwined in the 21st century. we saw it with aids and anthrax and again with ebola. our security as a nation, our family security, our community's security, our international security is all tightly intertwined now. i think that what i've seen in those years starting with hiv and going through sars and anthrax and now is that there's no turning back. it's a battlefield. we're every day battling infectious diseases of one kind or another and they pop up ugly heads and impact us in a big way. >> i remember sars and the fears of the masks and could i get it and how does that happen and of course aids. you think of aids and anthrax. all of those the nation, the h word, hysteria. hysteria. what did you learn from that this administration should bring to the table? >> public health isn't just about being right. it's being right and also having the faith in people that you're serving

dr. frieden noted, we do have one health care worker.he health care worker that had extensive contact with our initial patient who did what was appropriate with the early symptoms that came in to be checked. and we facilitated getting the blood tests done. that test came back at 9:30 last night and, as dr. frieden noted, was positive. the controls were appropriate. the amount of virus in her blood was less than what was there when they first index case came back, but it is a positive test. so our hearts really do go out to this individual and the family who is with us. health care worker who is willing to compassionately care for mr. duncan. again, our thoughts and prayer res with them. we have been preparing for events such as this. putting in contingency plans. we're refining those plans and a lot of work is taking place right now. as dr. frieden noted, the 48 original contacts continue to be monitored and they continue to do well. we have this one health care worker that now needs our care. and so, as dr. frieden noted, we have been a

dr. frieden, he's a good friend of mine, he's an empathetic person. you heard him say it was misinterpreted. in no way is he mistaking anyone? >> it is on us, we jump on any little thing. we are always looking for scandals and mistakes, but we should also be accurate and careful in what we report. >> in your experience, is the cdc being proactive enough with the hospitals around the country? does more training need to be done? >> they have been work on this for years. the cdc has been work hard ever since going back to bird flu really at the turn of the century, hard, steady work. that said, it's difficult. it's one on one training of furss and technicians. ebola gives you no measure for error and i think that's why it's showing up here now. but it's something that everyone has been working on very steadily, clearly, more work is needed. >> when the cdc briefing began about the success in nigeria in containing it, what is the difference on infrastructure, perhaps, in preparation from nigeria to liberia? >> it was containing it because they did contact

dr. frieden. john roberts, always productive to hear your reporting. thank you for your excellent job as always. thank you so much. >> reporter: thanks, lou, appreciate it. lou: president obama has attended only 42% of daily intelligence briefings. joining us fox news strategic analyst colonel ralph peters. what do you make of a president who only, and i have to say this, i don't know what percentage of daily briefings previous presidents we tried to find that number week couldn't, but 42% seems awfully low for a country in global terror, does it to you? >> it is. on any given day the most important briefing any president will get is the president daily brief, the pdb from the intelligence community. that alerts him to what's going on in the world. the presidents were hungry for intelligence. even bill clinton. and the curious thing about obama who clearly is an intelligent man lacks curiosity overall. he doesn't do his homework. he pleas hooky from school. he likes the perks of being president but not the work. lou: he also blamed the intelligence com

dr. frieden. next speaker is dr. david lakey, who is the commissioner of the texas departments of state health services. dr. lakey. >> good afternoon. this is david lakey, the commissioner of health from the state of texas. i want to thank dr. frieden for the support of the cdc as we are working on this overt right now. it's one effort and one team. as i started off, i again want to say that my thoughts and prayers and our thoughts and prayers are with the patient right now and obviously, he's critically ill but also with the family as they are going through this event and the contacts that have been identified that are obviously have concern about what's going on with them right now. and request the hospital workers that athat are caring for this ilpatient right now. as i said earlier, we are doing our work in pirp with the cdc and our local health department here in the state of texas. a lot of very important hard work is taking place right here in texas and dallas to ensure that the people of dallas are safe the g

dr. frieden has explained, we are very clear that people become contagious as they become sick. so his first fever, in fact, was today earlier this -- in the late morning today, and he did not have a fever for the whole time since he left guinea until this morning. my understanding is that out of an abundance of caution that the bowling alley has closed and we, of course, will be sending health department staff on site

dr. frieden, and dr. frieden will stay with us during the question and answer period and with that we'd like to turn to questions from the media. yes. [ inaudible ] >> can you speak a little louder? >> yeah. [ inaudible ] >> yeah, i'll give you as much information as i have. as i have said at the outset, this is an evolving situation in which we are still interviewing people including talking to the patient, and i'll echo what everyone else has said that we are all -- our main focus, of course, is on the recovery of that patient. the bowling alley was in the williamsburg section of brooklyn. it's called the gutter bowling alley. the patient went there with friends there, and he did bowl while he was there according to our understanding of events. the patient was not feeling -- you know, although he reported fatigue, he was not symptomatic. he had no fever, and as dr. frieden has explained, we are very clear that people become contagious as they become sick. so his first fever, in fact, was today earlier th

dr. frieden, that experimental serum given to two of the patients. is there any more on that? is there anything promising? >> we don't know if it works but there's no more of it now. the company is working hard to make a few more doses. it's hard to make. it takes a long time. we have learned how important management is. rehydration of patients can be life saving. that's something we're taking back to africa to try to improve the care there, to improve the rehydration of patients. we are seeing signs of progress. cdc has trained more than 4,000 health workers in africa. we're training health workers in