dr. gardner just said. i'm completely unsettled by it.e floor, i want to give you the credentials. >> i don't agree with his tactics. i understand the passion, i think everyone in the country is upset about our current political situation. for every person who thinks donald trump is crazy, there's some who think he's a hero. and i think we have to use our expertise to help people understand what's going on. i have focused in some of my public writing, on issues of competence and ability to carry out the duties of office. that has nothing to do with a mental health diagnosis. there have been many political leaders who have, who could be described as having a mental health diagnosis. i don't think it adds to the conversation. i think we should focus on behavior, both of mr. trump, his staff, the republican party, and try to understand why people are doing what they're doing. i don't think -- >> i would say to both of you, be careful what you wish for, because to cast aside the goldwater rule on this president's watch, is to mean that that r