dr. gibraltar, let me start with you. yourself identified as working at a rural university. >> that's right. >> to mr. stutzman and i, rural america isn't a policy, it's where we are from. >> yes. >> and rural america as a disproportionate contribution to the defense of this country. so when we have young men and women returning, looking for educational opportunities, we have a moral obligation to reward that sacrifice by giving them an educational experience that moves them on the way to fulfilling their career and educational goals. i don't think you disagree with that. >> i absolutely agree. >> but one of your statements confused me where you said there is no requirement for students to identify themselves as veterans. >> right. >> and yet we're talking about funding from the gi bill and military tuition assistance benefits. so how can colleges and universities not identify that that is a veteran when they're receiving those benefits? >> i think you're talking about two different issues. i think that where we struggle