dr. gingrey. have you heard about this situation? it's spooky, you can't send the letter to people in america? mr. gingrey: i have heard about it. it's amazing, isn't it, that what we hear from the leadership of the majority party and from 1600 pennsylvania avenue is that everybody that is questioning h.r. 3200 or the bill that came out of the health committee in the senate and has great concerns about whether illegal immigrants are going to be covered, whether the general taxpayer, whether they're pro-life or pro-choice will have to pay for subsidies that low-income people get through the exchange if they choose to a plan, the government plan or private plan, that offers abortion services, and it's in the bill. it's clear language and yet we're just getting all wee weed up according to certain sources. it's like the only people telling the truth is the white house and the democratic majority party. everybody else is lying. you know. it's absolutely insulting. mr. speaker, that's why the people at the town hall meetings were so wee-we

dr. gingrey? mr. gingrey: mr. speaker, i certainly appreciate the gentlelady from minnesota for carrying this hour of important information in regard to the health care reform proposal, h.r. 3200, and also my good friend and colleague, physician colleague, from the great state of louisiana, dr. john fleming, as the gentlelady has said before coming to congress from the state of georgia, i spent something like 31 years practicing medicine, 26 as an ob-gyn physician. and the physician members in this body and there are about 17 of us, five on the democratic side, 12 on the republican side, probably have over 400 years of clinical experience combined in regard to health care. so, you know, we bring to this issue, i think, a fund of knowledge that needs to be listened to and listened very carefully to. not that we're necessarily the experts or the last word but i think we are a very important word. as mrs. bachmann, representative bachmann, was saying, the president right here, mr. speaker, two weeks ago, as he spoke

dr. gingrey.e think they should not be allowed to come of vote against him. >> >> i like to ask my friend from georgia a question. is it not true that the harm you are trying to prevent with your amendment is already prohibited by the 10th amendment to the constitution? >> if you can explain to me what you mean by that -- explain to me what you think the 10th amendment says in regard to preventing harm, absolutely. >> the 10th amendment reserves to the state of rights better not specifically spelled out to the united states or they are not for had it to the state. we all know there right now the practice of medicine is regulated and of 50 states. in your amendment, if you are trying to prohibit a practice that already is prohibited by the 10th mmm. is that not correct? >> i've thank him for the question. i guess the gentleman was for the first amendment that was offered by my colleague from georgia -- [unintelligible] he brought up that point. the fact that the state have the right. it is protecte

dr. gingrey.e think they should not be allowed to come of vote against him. >> @@@@@ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ Å> hmm b)yáh not for had it to the state. we all know there right now the practice of medicine is regulated and of 50 states. in your amendment, if you are trying to prohibit a practice that already is prohibited by the 10th mmm. is that not correct? >> i've thank him for the question. i guess the gentleman was for the first amendment that was offered by my colleague from georgia -- [unintelligible] he brought up that point. the fact that the state have the right. it is protected by the 10th amendment. we heard general counsel say that absolutely under this bill that the state could be pre- empted under this section by the center for quality improvement. it says all plans for state employees have to cover certain mandates, maybe including abortion coverage. i am glad you asked me the question. i'll be glad to answer any other ones. >> i think that the bottom line is that the purpose of the am

dr. gingrey.e think they should not be allowed to come of vote against him. >> >> is it not true that the harm you are trying to prevent with your amendment is already prohibited by the 10th amendment to the constitution? >> if you can explain to me what you mean by that, explain to me what you think the 10th amendment says in regard to preventing harm. >> the 10th amendment reserves all rights that are not specifically spelled out or are not prohibited to the states, and we all know that right now the practice of medicine is regulated in all 50 states. so, in your amendment, you're trying to prohibit the practice that already is prohibited by the 10th amendment. is that not correct? >> i thank you for the question, and i guess the gentleman was for the first amendment that was offered by my colleague from georgia, the ranking member of the health subcommittee. the fact that the states have that right as protected by the 10th amendment. but we heard the general counsel said that absolutely under t

dr. gingrey. says they may not dictate how a medical provider practices medicine.f you oppose that, then you decided that a federal bureaucrat should be able to and can dictate how a medical provider practices medicine. if you are going to do that, then you are going to assume medical liability for every decision that she meant it. this has nothing to do with suggesting best practices. this has nothing to do with informing doctors of what is the least expensive form of care or effective if a doctor were advised that the best practice was to do what was suggested and did not do it, that would be malpractice. they could seek a remedy for that. this is not a question of it innovation. innovation can from doctors as low as government boards. the question is, do you want to put the doctor between -- put in the federal government between a patient and his or her doctor? i would suggest to you that the practice of medicine is in part science. we can make suggestions to doctors as to what the shooter should not do. -- should or should not do. if you think we should have fe

dr. fleming. mr. fleming: yes. mr. gingrey: they can say to a company, gosh, i noticed you have a lot of your employees who have picked the high deductible low premium plan, these young workers that are just out of college or just out of high school. well, you know what, mr. employer, we're not going to approve that because we've decided that nobody can spend that much money out of pocket in any one year. that's one of our requirements. so you're going to have to come up with something entirely different and, yes, more expensive, and that's when what representative fleming was saying, mr. speaker, the employer's going to say, you know what, it's not worth it to me. heck, i'll just pay the 8% fine for each of these employees and i'll let them go into this government plan. so you talking about if you like what you got you can keep it, you can keep it until you can't keep it. that's going to be in 2013. mr. fleming: will the gentleman yield for just a moment? mr. gingrey: yes, of course. mr. fleming: this, according to our presid