i work with dr. gray in the k through 12 program in the bayview at hoover knows. i was stunned when i found out these kids didn't have pencils and paper. so, what we did along with angie, we solicited paper from paper companies that they dropped off there so they would have paper. if you want to call something a shame, you call that a shame. these are students that go to school in san francisco that don't have pencils and papers and pens. now, some of the teachers were going in their own pockets. but in order to bring something together, i think what has to happen is you need to go out there and visit the center. how many of you have been out there to visit? i know, the same thing that one that came up in the back. thank you. >> thank you very much. next speaker. >>> good evening, my name is robert woods and i'm with the san francisco black human rights council. i'm an architect by education and i'm teaching ged math to those who have dropped through the crack. and through my experience in teaching them, i find that if you don't like the people you're serving, you

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dr. mark gray, the director of polling of georgetown university. he is also an associate professor at georgetown. his research focuses on culture and politics, political participation, a religion and politics. he specializes in survey research, trend analysis, and cross sectional time-series studies. then finally, dr. craig smith is a senior researcher at the pew research center's forum on religion and public life. his research surveys are among the most respected in the nation. he will examine the swing voters of catholics that is closely divided and capable of voting either way in any given election. i failed to mention mark gray's presentation will talk the underlying complexity of the bellwether defects at treated to the catholic vote as low as the boards of turnout and mobilization in how the catholic vote is likely to result. that is the agenda for today. each speaker has 15 minutes, i promise we will each keep to our time limits, myself included. the conventional wisdom in politics is certain swing voters, particularly catholics, will likely

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