dr. gutmann, talk about the year of the pledge and how that ties people's hands. >> so a majority of members of the house and 41 senators have taken the grover norquist pledge which is they will not support any tax increases. and somebody like alan simpson rightly says that that's crazy to do in politics, to promise that you're never going to do x and stand on principle. why is it? because you don't, you can't govern, you can't sit down at the table and make any deals. and i think you all remember when the republican primary candidates -- when there was still many of them -- were asked, okay, would you agree to $1 in increased taxes for revenues for $10 of cuts in government spending, and not one of them would agree to that. they had all taken the norquist pledge. and that just really blocks not just compromise, it blocks governing. so why do they do it? well, the dream of every partisan -- and democrats, imagine -- if you're republican, imagine democrats taking the same pledge, we will not agree to $1 in benefits cuts. not $3 -- not $1 to medicare, medicaid, any entitlement cuts. and why do