dr. harrison parker. next, i have a question. my question is -- what is the relationship for the average person in the community to understand the relationship between puc commission and the self facilities commission? what process does it have to go through to make some changes other than just going around and around in circles without making any progress? the creatures alluded to by jackson. thank you. [applause] >> maybe we can respond to that question. maybe one of the general managers? >> i think that i would be happy to have the city attorney try to. the puc is set up under the charter. building facilities are under the jurisdiction of the puc. the southeast historic community association is set up by the board of supervisors, not by the charter or the people of san francisco. as such it was set up specifically as an advisory commission. all of the words in the entire ordinan >> so, certainly we work closely with the southeast community but one is a charter commission and one is a commission by ordinance and the charter aut