dr. hendricks talked about. with the consequences of the activity, what do you make of militia activity on the border, what kind of christian or religious implications does that bear? >> it is extremely scary. one of the things for me, religion and the space of the church can cut a variety of ways. what he said is right, what we have to keep in mind and what we have to keep at the forefront of the conversation is the long history that religion and theology, religious rhetoric played into what we're experiencing now. precisely this turn to the church, right, turn to the catholic church as a space for help, we have to recognize that traditi tradition, recognize that history, but also have to recognize the large dangers that have come with leaning on religion and theology. it is a little scary. help is good, as long as the church doesn't start pros they will advertising, we will be okay. >> think about what karl rove had to say. >> the difference between bush and obama, president bush went to new orleans within sev