dr. howard doing? and dr. howard was certainly supportive of king. but i don't think it was -- there wasn't a close political relationship that i can see really, you know, 56, 57, 58. i mean, howard was more involved in local activities in chicago by that point. >> and shortly, the work he did in chicago, coming to chicago, most of it had to do with the medical center even though he dabbled a little bit in politics. he went back to his first love and that was healing the sick. and so his center was a beautiful center. he would help people like angela davis and some of the others on the walls so people came in they felt better because they would see people that they read about. and then he proceeded to help them. so most of his work in chicago had to do with the south side and medicine and one last thing in that his house is still here. still in the city. in his basement, we've seen it, it covers about a block. it's a beautiful home on the south side. thank you. [inaudible] >> i have to say in 45 short minutes, it is impossible to do justice to the ric

dr. howard during the trial and he provided an armed escort to the trial. some people might say today that his home was an armed compound, weapons were everywhere including howard thompson's submarine gun. after the acquittal which he predicted. a white man has as much chance for being convicted of killing a black man in mississippi for being convicted for hunting deer out of season, he gave speeches under the sponsorship of the naacp as wilkins arranged for these speeches. spoke to crowds of thousands as a result of this work, had california eagle called him the most hated and best-loved man in mississippi. he constantly pushed the argument in his speeches that more than two people were involved in the murder. it wasn't just the two. more than 50 years later we now know from an fbi investigation or at least it's been confirmed that, yes, more than two people were involved in the murder of emmett till. his speeches also criticize the fbi which is something a 1955, which you did not do very often. the fbi was at the height of its power. he so enraged j. edgar

dr. howard. >> thank you mr. chairman and members of the commission, i am honored to be invited here to talk to about the projects that time been able to be involved with in american indian community is. i hope that one of going to tell you a sense of light on the issue that you are confronting the and perhaps strategy is to begin to deal with its one. we started 22 years ago with a project called the strong heart study that was funded by the national heart, lung and blood institute and we have been working from all of this time under some basic tenets that i think you're relevant here. one is we have worked in full partnership with the communities beceiving input that all levels

howard dean's wife is dr. judith sandberg. i have not had a conversation with her, i just know what i read. she dropped out of the medicaid program because the reimbursement rates were not sufficient to keep her doors open to provide health insurance for her own employees. so, you know, you start talking about reforming the system and covering more people, but if you are reimbursing doctors at a lower rate from what you are currently receiving, that little plastic card that says, you know, i have insurance, therefore i have access -- you do not have access if there are no doctors there, particularly primary care doctors that we want to incentivize to treat the sick but also to enhance wellness. we need more and more doctors like that, and you are paying them less and less, and the best and brightest are not going to go into medicine, and they are certainly not going into those specialties that we are most in need of. host: by the way, howard dean is out with the new book and will join us tomorrow. paul is on the phone from for

and said that his wife was one of the victims of what you@@@@ i believe howard dean's wife, she's a family practitioner in vermont. dr. steinberg is surname. i had a conversation with her. she dropped out of the medicaid program. because the reimbursement rates were not sufficient to keep her doors open, to provide health- insurance thoron own employees. so, you start talking about reforming the system and covering more people, but if you are reimbursing doctors at a lower rate from what they are currently receiving, then that little plastic card that says, i have insurance, therefore, i have access and euna lee don't have access, if there are no doctors there, particularly primary-care doctors. -- you feel you have access with this card, but you don't have access if there are no doctors there. we need more doctors. if you're paying them less and less, the best and brightest will not go into medicine and certainly they will not go into specialty areas that we are in most in need of. specialties that we are most in need of. host: by the way, howard dean is out with the new book and will join us tomorrow. paul is on th

howard dean's prescriptions for real healthcare reform." guest: i do not think we are blind to get much agreement between dr. dean and dr. coburn on this one. the idea that we were better off with insurance companies is a crazy idea. there are more bureaucrats telling doctors what to do than there ever were in the united states government. host: as far as prescriptions that the obama administration one for health care, how did they fall in line with what you are prescribing? guest: that is the plan in prescribing. there needs to be a public option. the most effective, efficient plant in america -- taking care of people with medicare. yes, there are serious problems. compared to what the private insurance companies have done to doctors and patients over the last 15 years, we are better off with medicare. i fully agree with the president. people should be doubled to make a choice. people should be able to choose what they want. if employers want to continue to offer private health insurance to their employees, they should. i think we need to have an alternative like medicare for people over 65. it is high satisfaction. it