dr. jaccard, and i respect his accomplishments. but that doesn't nullify our request, that we have a hearing specifically with scientists to discuss climate change. not keystone, but climate change itself. >> well, that'll have to be -- >> if you want to invite dr. jaccard to come in to be a part of that panel, i have no objections to that. but the focus of it would be climate change and not keystone. >> well, you know, we're all -- >> of which, of which we are really deliberating not keystone itself, but whether or not this congress is going to jeopardize the relationships, the international relationships between canada and the u.s., whether or not we're going to hijack the process and that this committee will begin to just write international policy without the influence of the administration on -- [inaudible] that's what this hearing's about. >> well, you know, we asked four agencies to send representatives to in this hearing, and they were excused. >> but, mr. chairman, the nature and the subject of this hearing, i want to be r