dr. john simmons and we are moving on through the semester here, thoroughly ensconced in the doctrinal dimension. but since doctrine sometimes can be a tough road to hoe, why don't we start out with something fun here- a joke. anybody have a joke? a joke? yeah, go ahead. >> it's a george carlin-

dr. john simmons and we are moving on through the semester here, thoroughly ensconced in the doctrinal dimension. but since doctrine sometimes can be a tough road to hoe, why don't we start out with something fun here- a joke. anybody have a joke? a joke? yeah, go ahead. >> it's a george carlin- the comedian- it's his joke. someone in the audience asked him did he believe in the ten commandments. he said, 'yes, i do believe in the commandments- six commandments and four suggestions." >> that's a good one with doctrine, because when we're talking about doctrine, as you know, and ethics, we're at the very heart of the course, which is belief and behavior. and we've mentioned several functions of doctrine, and today i want to take another spin on that and look at the tension in the doctrinal dimension between the sacred and the secular. so often the deeply religious have a problem with the secular world, and for others, like us, it's difficult to see where that demarcation is, that line between what is the mundane, what's the ordinary, and what is special and what is sacred. and we've talked about

dr. john simmons and we've got another great class here on islam- we're going to be asking another worlddoctrinal dimension. but we're having so much fun and we've had such an interesting set of classes that i'd just like throw it out- whatever "it" is- once again to this great audience, and any observations you've had