dr. jorge rodriguez and dr.o's done a great job in joining us here on cnn talking about the work that he's done in africa and in liberia. we've talked to several people from liberia who are concerned about the stigma being attached to them, i'm curious what kind of awareness campaign, what kind of support those communities are going to be getting, too. >> elizabeth, just in the last few seconds here, give us a status report on the people they're still monitoring in the dallas area. >> reporter: right. 48 people are currently being monitored. they get their temperature taken twice a day. they're supposed to keep track of their health, see if they're feeling any symptoms of ebola. five of those people are legally quarantined. so four family members have to stay in their residence that they're in right now and a homeless man has also been quarantined because they were afraid they couldn't keep track of them. >> they were keeping an eye out for him. elizabeth, thanks so much for joining us with that information. we'

dr. jorge rodriguez, and dr. alexander garza.ur first question is from a viewer who asks, there are several strains of the ebola virus. can mutations cause them to spread differently? dr. rodriguez, you want to take that one? >> well, mutations affect viruses in many difshferent way. a mutation can as easily make a virus less dangerous as it can a little bit more dangerous. so, we do know that there are many different types of strains of viruses, and some actually are much more dangerous than others. this one is -- has a morality of 50%. there's another type that has mortality of 90%. the answer to the question is yes, and we don't exactly know how that is going to be affected by mutations. >> and kathy also asks, is there proof that ebola is not airborne? and i think that is a question so many people want to know because it's spreading seemingly so rapidly. what do you say? >> well, it's important to understand a disease can spread rapidly even if it's not airborne. and in liberia, that's essentially what you're dealing with, a

dr. jorge rodriguez is a board certified internist and best selling author. he worked on hiv and hepatitis clinical research trials and he joins us now from los angeles. thank you for joining us. you just heard about the new rules about quarantines that have taken place in new jersey and new york. it seems in the past 24 hours, we saw a doctor in new york, he has ebola. he went about his life, and now we've got this nurse, and it looks like there's some questions about when she had a fever, who is now under quarantine. what do you make of new york and new jersey going beyond the cdc rules now. how is the u.s. overall responding to this in your opinion? >> well, i think right now the pendulum is swing into an extreme fashion. but however, that goes to show how panicky people can get about this. listen, i've given this a lot of thought as to what i think should be done with people who are in direct contact with ebola. you know, people who have sacrificed their lyes to go there and help others. and my conclusion is that probably anybody who has known contact sho

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dr. jorge rodriguez, an internalist who's led all kinds of criminal trials. aplan. defendant dr. jorge rodriguez. let me ask you this. you were on with us before talking about processes, how to handle this type of situation. well, now we know that three sheriff's deputies in dallas are on leave as a precaution because they went inside that apartment where those four people are quarantined. there are those four people who are quarantined. does this look like a good process to you so far? >> no. you know, not at all. the way i look at it, there are four things we need to look at with this epidemic. one is treatment and cure, the other one is prevention and containment. i think this country really needs to can focus on establishing set policy for containment and for prevention. the way i look at it -- and if it didn't being done already, someone either with the department of homeland security or the cdc -- needs to state and create policies that say look, when someone is infected, this is who's going to take care of the person. this is how they're going to be qua

dr. jorge rodriguez, an enterist who has led all kinds of clinical trials. the next few weeks will teach us a lot about how ebola spreads. isn't that a little worrisome in itself, to say we will learn about ebola suggests that there's plenty we don't know right now. >> let's start off by saying there's plenty we do know. there is cautious vigilance is what we need to do. what i'm saying is that most of what we know about ebola we have gathered from people that have already been infected with ebola. we know what happens once you catch it and after the fact. what i'm most concerned about is that period before people start showing classic symptoms. are people truly not contagious at that time? if we now with the help of obviously the cdc and nih, if we start seeing different patterns of infection occurring perhaps in washington, in belgium, in dallas, then perhaps there's a little bit more that we don't know. that will -- that's what we'll start learning in the next couple weeks. yes, it's a little bit worley so worrisome. >> you have given tremendous recommend

dr. jorge rodriguez now. dr. he last several days talking about what is real and not real in dealing with ebola and today we want to talk about treatments, doctor. we know zmapp was this anti-viral drug give on the several people here in the united states who were treated for it. but that's gone. there's none of it on earth, we're being told right now. other people have been given different anti-viral drugs. we heard from a doctor in west africa yesterday who said they're getting aids type drugs right now to try to treat this. what are the chances that any of these will work? >> your guess, john, is as good as mine and theirs. those drugs are being used as a desperate measure because ebola and hiv are in the same family of viruses. they're called retroviruses. so desperate times call for desperate measures and they're trying to see if any of these drugs work at all. so nobody really knows where they do work or will work. >> obviously you probably can speak in generalizations and -- about the treatment that thomas

dr. jorge rodriguez saw all of this coming. he joins us right now. >> i wrote a blog that said it's not a matter, but when. this study stated with the amount of air traffic, there's an 18% up from 5%, there's an 18% that within the month of september somebody unknown to us will come to this country with ebola. >>> doctor, you are eyly on top of that. what do you fear now, doctor? >> well, neil, what i fear now is what you stated. we don't know exactly who came into contact with this man and whether he was contagious when he flew. i mean, the dogma is that someone is ebola is not contagious until he has symptoms. my concern is the few days before they had the full-blown symptoms. i mean, you know, i'm sorry to have been actually correct about this. we can't just stop people from coming in from one country or another. this man stopped in belgium, then came over here. what we need to do is that 9 cdc needs to start having policies in place as soon as possible, both for air travel and for physicians, to be able to diagnosis this in

dr. jorge rodriguez. both of you have been incredible as we cover this story. we now know that often times nurses are on the front lines, more hands on with the patients than perhaps the doctors we know this nurse wore a mask, a gown, a shield, gloves, we know this patient was in isolation yet she got ebola. what possibly could have gone wrong? where was the point of weakness? >> michaela, as you suggested it may be because they weren't necessarily using the right type of equipment or maybe there were inconsistencies in the way she put it on and took it off. the bottom line here is that this is not easy to do. an expert on safety at johns hopkins says, look, safety breaches are the norm, they're not the exception. not just with ebola but in general. it is often hard to do these things exactly right. and that's why doctors i'm talking to say, look, the cdc ought to designate that just certain hospitals take care of these patients. it's too hard to train every single hospital in the country to prepare to take care of an ebola patient. once a patient is identified

dr. jorge rodriguez and professor gossen, thanks for joining us. we can talking about that on "new day." hospitals in new york are sending actors in to sort of test out how procedures are being followed. they want to make sure they're followed. hopefully hospitals around the nation are doing their own drills so they can be prepared. every medical person we talked to said preparation is key. >> if it's not see boebola, it', something else. >>> outrage in spain after a dog gets put down because of ebola concerns. but can dog really get ebola? and if they do, can they give it to humans? there's a lot of misinformation out there. we will tell you what the science says. >> big story was, of course, the plight of thousands of children coming into the united states from the mexican border. now one lawmaker is saying isis is exploiting that same border. a party? hi. i'm new ensure active clear protein drink. clear huh? my nutritional standards are high. i'm not juice or fancy water. i've got 8 grams of protein. twist my lid! that's three times more than me