dr. kaplan, let me bring you in on this, just the timeline here, saturday august 2, that's when nancy writeboll, older by some years, 59 years old was admitted into the hospital. they were kept on a similar unit, but on opposite ends of this isolated area, as we await more information to dr. fouch chi's point, we do and should pause before we give credit to this unknown serum. >> well the drug certainly was tested and i think appropriately so. but we just don't know did they survive because they had pretty good support tiff medical care, not that we know any way to treat it but if you get fluids and are kind of brought through some of the rough parts of the disease, some people do make it. we can't really say they made it due to, if you will the success of this experimental drug. at the same time, we're going to be watching them. >> we're watching right now, i'm sorry to interrupt you, dr. bruce riber, who treated both of these patients. going to the emery staff, there were critics who said these two americans should not be allowed back into the country, emery felt confident it had the facility