dr. katzman: quite some questions. i know c-span is here so i want to say hi, mom. [laughter] iran's removal from the u.s. terrorist list, well, there are some young people in the audience, so maybe by the time they are my age that could happen. iran is nowhere close to being removed from the terrorist list. there is no consideration in the u.s. government for removing iran from that list. i would just be categorical on that question. the other -- what was the rest of the question? sorry. comparing libya? well, you know, we could conceivably have two similar situations. libya gave up its nuclear program and actually gave -- dismantled the whole thing. obviously, there was not the same level of debate over lifting some of the sanctions on libya because they had been so you know, basically dismantled the entire program. iran is not doing that obviously. this deal leaves them with substantial infrastructure. and we had more than an hour of discussion about the continuing concerns. obviously, it is not quite as easy. but, you know, again, just looking at authorities, th

dr. katzman: about iran's removal from the u.s.errorist list, well, there are some their -- young people in the audience, so maybe by the time they are my age that could happen. iran is nowhere close to being removed from the terrorist list. there is no consideration in the u.s. government for removing iran from that list. i would just be categorical on that question. the other -- what was the rest of the question? sorry. comparing libya? well, you know, we could conceivably have two similar situations. libya gave up its nuclear program and actually gave -- dismantle the whole thing. obviously, there was not the same level of debate over lifting some of the sanctions on libya because they had been so you know, basically dismantle the entire program. iran is not doing that obviously. this deal leaves them with substantial infrastructure. and we had more than an hour of discussion about the continuing concerns. obviously, it is not quite as easy. but, you know, again, just looking at authorities, the president does have, you know, qu

dr. katzman: i think given the reaction in iran to the tentative deal, i think it will be extremely difficult for iran not to go forward and have the final deal. i think the repercussions in iran would be tremendous if there were a collapse at the end of this. i think president -- the president could probably not finish. he would certainly not be able to continue. i think you would see a major, major of people -- upheaval. -- upheaval if this doesn't go to completion at this point. >> i agree that the technical details are so difficult, i would fully expect when june 30 comes, some extending up the talks. that would suit a number of the gulf states because they would like to see a tighter agreement negotiated. they don't want sanctions lifted yet until the agreement is better. because they have recently realized that they needed to lead in dealing with geopolitical threats rather than wait for the united states to lead them -- not only that, but they are also seeing that united states is responding to their lead and the united states is gradually getting more involved, helping in yemen, helpi

dr. kenneth katzman, specialist on congressional research service will present his remarks. xt we will hear from dr. imad harb distinguished fellow at national council on u.s./arab relations. concluding, dr. paul sullivan, senior international affairs fellow at national council and professor of economics at the national defense university will wrap up the panel presentation. dr. anthony, if you would kindly come to the podium and kick off our discussion on this deal. >> thank you john. when we were putting together this seminar, we came up with 14 aspects, 14 factors fa nom that windows, prisms through which one could look at what has just occurred with the preliminary agreement. the framework. and the challenges it represents. but the opportunities it also represents. and we are only going to be able to address perhaps, around eight of these 14 factors. but we will be as frank and candid as we can. much is unknown. in my brief remarks here has to do with the fears, the needs, the concerns of three of iran's neighbors. oman, bahrain, saudi arabia. and tom mattair will deal wi

dr. anthony, ambassador hossein mousavian will speak. he will be followed by doctor thomas mattair, executive director of the middle east policy council. then kenneth katzman, specialist on middle east affairs with congressional research service will present his remarks. next we will hear from doctor imad harb, distinguished international affairs fellow the national council of arab religion and concluding, dr. paul sullivan, senior international affairs fellow at the national council and professor of economics at the national defense university will wrap up the panel presentations. dr. anthony if you would kindly come to the podium and kick off our discussion on this deal. >> thank you, john. when we're putting together this seminar, we came up with 14 aspects, 14 factors, phenomena windows, lenses prisms through which one could look through what what just occurred with a preliminary agreement with the framework, the challenges it represents. but the opportunities it also represents. and we are only going to be able to address perhaps around eight of these 14 factors, but we will be as frank and candid as we can. much is unknown. in my brief remarks here i