dr. kendi will sit down and give the background in terms of the history of racism in america and we have with us as well d. watkins. professor watkins as a young man from baltimore so and native son of baltimore city. professor watkins has put together a number of essays and put them in a book called "the beast side" living and dying while black in america. his book chronicles his life story in many ways talking about the things that he saw in the things that he witnesses. professor watkins was able to sit down and talk about the racist policies we have hades american how they affected himar growing up in the urban environment. professor watkins as a young man who has turned his life around in the early days to show the power of reading and how important is and how education is a key to success. professor watkins is a graduate and has his masters from john hopkins and he also teaches a creative writing program at the university of baltimore. to have both of these gentlemen, both of the scholars

dr. kendi, professor watkins.i work as a surgeon in baltimore city, and whether i am at home were i grew up in rural north carolina or whether i am in baltimore seeing the folks from 33rd and green out for liberty heights avenue, what i was wondering, dr. kendi, is where have you seen in your research that racist ideas with regard to health have been implanted bucks because i see evidence of it but i don't read much about it. >> sure.n't read i think i'm sure you probably saw the recent study of medical students that found you have white medical students who believe that black people are more susceptible or less susceptible to being. >> yes. >> actually that theory was a theory that was used by benjamin rush.by benjamin rush was one of the founders of you pinned medical school. a very famous doctrine philadelphia. -- country. in one of his books he cited another doctor stated that this doctor was able to abdicate a black person's leg while the black person held their leghi because a black person did not feel pain.

so dr. kendihas done research that put these things into a historical context and i think "the beast side: living (and dying) while black in america" goes well within the book because it breaks down how these things fit everyday citizens who had to deal with these issues, who are still dealing with the same issues that came before that were established a long time ago and "the beast side" is a simple book. if you are from a place like baltimore or anyurban area , you never see yourself in the book area you never see yourself on television, never see yourself as a statue when you walk down the street, there is no representation of yourself anywhere in the country that you helped build , then it's a love story for you. it's a chance to see yourself and understand your story and journey and also putting some of these huge issues and to historical context. on the other side of the section, if you are from a place far removed from a place like east baltimore, if you are from a suburb and you don't have

dr. ibram kendi and professor watkins. i just retired after 25 years.and most of the time i went to district heights. most of it was my privilege to go there. and professor watkins i want to add one thing to what you said about the guy in the suit and everything there. there are a lot of women who are out there in our doing that kind of thing also from the library is often a lot of predominately women there but we also work with sororities and church groups and men but also the women there with the ministries and all sorts of things they are doing a lotmen, also.oi i also want to say that there are two in annapolis is and everybody knows it. one place where they come together is the annapolis senior center where most of the people seem to have gotten beyond a lot of stuff.wh thank you. always acknowledge all of the women and that i work with. i should've been more clear in my language. if women were not around my life i would not even bege, here. i could do my own anything. but thank you for that. and i will echo that as well..>> >> first of all unfortu