dr. king. what would martin say, your first book, there's a very, very rivetting section in which you talk about the first time you had an opportunity to meet dr. king. >> guest: that's in the opening paragraph. just quickly, first of all, i'm delighted to be here, okay, and have this opportunity to talk to you. we have so many mutual friends in common. wow, your question brings me back so many years to february 1960. i was 29 years old. i'm going to be 80 years of age this saturday. i was just seven months out of the university law school. i got a call from a distinguished judge and lawyer in new york city. >> host: from the delaney family? >> guest: yes. he had written me recommendations for law school. he called me and said, clarence, i'm the chief -- i've just taken on the chief defense counsel of defending dr. king from montgomery, alabama who's been indicted for tax evasion. i listened, and we have three other excellent attorneys two tax specialists from chicago. we need a law clerk. we

[laughter] >> host: thanks, dr. kingly put me on the map, because no longer was anybody asking who is carole simpson? >> host: everybody knew who you were. at this point you were on radio but eventually make the switch to tv and land at nbc news, the network. tell me about that experience in the first months there at nbc news. >> guest: at nbc, i had been nine years in the local news before i hit the networks, and they wanted to reporters. now they don't care, but you can see very young women giving the news that the wanted you to be solid and have had a lot of experience before you went to the network. so i had amine in chicago, and they thought i did a good job and they wanted to hire me and moved me to washington, d.c. which was my dream because now we wouldn't be reporting things on just involving chicago and the region, but national sings in a world wide things, so i had always wanted to be a correspondent in washington and that is what they offered me. i get to washington, my dream job, and i am not getting any ass

dr. martin luther king it. watched the been of them the plant area think that his speech in washington and come i have a dream, 1/2 by a would never thought i had an opportunity to meet him. but he announced from atlanta they he was going north to chicago to five segregation in chicago book of all the reporters are trying to find out the mayor of this city of chicago was horrified ask my news director can i have this story? they said he is black and she is black. probably. [laughter] and i went to o'hare airport 18 for the planes coming from atlanta with the other reporters, tv crews going from place to place and never are writing anywhere. i found out from a ticket agent that he was taken off the back of the plane and into a car on the tarmac and away from us. [laughter] most of the reporters will say in a hotel when he frequented when he came to downtown chicago. if he is this guarded and is now want to anybody to know he will stay here close to the airport to. i started by myself from all of from the airport

dr. martin luther king.i had watched, you know being in alabama, i had seen all of the demonstrations he was leading leaving and all of his work and of course his speech in washington, the i have a dream speech. i just had so much admiration for this man, and i never thought i'd get an opportunity to meet him. but he announced from atlanta that he was going north to chicago, and he was going to fight segregation in chicago. well, this big competitive news town, all the reporters are trying to find out what the heck is he going to chicago for? mayor richard j. daily was mayor of the city of chicago and he was horrified. there is nothing wrong with the city of chicago, so everybody was trying to find out what it was that he was coming for. i asked my news director, can i have this story? he said well, he is black, he is black, probably. [laughter] so i went to o'hare airport, waiting for all the planes coming from atlanta with all the other reporters and tv crews, so we are going from gate to gate and the plan

i go, is dr. king registered here? as if he would be registered as dr. martin luther king.e would have been mr. green or something like that. >> host: yang. >> guest: and so all of these people were saying, no, he's not registered. one of the hotels that i went in, there was something i got from body language. you learn as a reporter to pick up on that. it was just the way she said it that i believed, i bet he's here. i know he's year. so when she wasn't looking i went out the elevator. i stopped on to, i stopped on three, i stopped on for. i was looking up and down the corridors looking for any activity. fortunately it was of on hotel that did not have other corridors. it was just one line. you could look off the elevator and see if there was any activity. i knew he would be traveling with his lieutenants. and so i get to the seventh floor and a sea of these black men at the end of the hall i am going, i start heading that way. asked at to one of the gentlemen, young lady. i said, i want to get an interview with dr. king. [laughter] >> host: sure, no problem. >> guest: com

dr. martin luther king jr. and became known as dr. king's singing organizer.hanges, the african-american spirituals jimmy grew up singing became powerful anthems for the civil rights movement. >> for safety reasons they never wanted people to know exactly when dr. king was going to arrive at a mass meeting like this. so my job was to go a little bit ahead in some cases. i wouldn't know how long i would have to play. sometimes it was just a few minutes. sometimes it would be a couple of hours. >> and i've seen the promised land. i may not get there with you. but i want you to know tonight that we as a people will get to the promised land. ♪ oh freedom over me ♪ before i'll be a slave i'll be buried in my grave ♪ ♪ and go home to my lord and be free ♪ >> we were trying to get people to register to vote. so you'd go out and think, god, this is the middle of alabama, the middle of mississippi. and people would go out and try and get people to come into town and register. you'd wonder, people would go off and you'd think maybe we'll never see them again. if we got

. >> that is great i think dr. king talked about the opposite of hate red, love is not hate red but fear or apathy. we will talk more about that in terms of relationships in terms of black history we want to hear more about what you are about and focus on our theme in the next segment. so please join us, with kokomon and aiesha >>> welcome back to mosaic. we are talking about attitudinal healing which you do in east bay. let's talk about the black history you mentioned earlier, belva davis' book is that one that you see -- >> she is an icon. when you read her book you can see the historical process from the 60s and how we have grown and not grown. and black history month is still important, because well, black 365 days but hen you start looking how -- but when you start looking how multicultural this country is, one of my favorite people is benjamin banacer he wrote his almanac it was popular among all the great people. >> the inventor. >> yes. >> right. >> he was an astronomer and also he helped to -- his memory was so

now, people like dr. king were making sense his whole life, but the country didn't decide all of a sudden they're going to treat black people and hispanic people fairly because of this extraordinary, nobel peace prize man who gave the greatest speech probably ever in the march on washington. the country did not decide to treat people justly because he gave that extraordinary speech. they didn't treat gandhi with respect; in fact, he was killed for some of his genius and some of his insight. so the point of the story is just because you have ideas, and just because you maybe somebody who's innovative, does not mean that the world is going to stop and celebrate your cause. and it's very important to me that you do not need the applause in order to do your job. >> hinojosa: but... but... but... with someone like you, you actually need the applause, because the applause actually gets you the recognition. the recognition helps you to find the funding so that you can do this kind of stuff. >> but i don't need the ap

the kennedy presidency, nasa, but dr. king. i married a man who was also a dreamer. i have been blessed to have been in jobs where humanity is served. 80 people had a dream that the of hard first could be heard through them. -- believes that the youth in san francisco should have a say of what goes on here and and they should be represented in some way. i am privileged to have gone into a job like this because it is and honor to serve about a dream. thank you. get the >> it is might honor to make the next introduction to our next honoree. i would like to invite up -- ibm honor to recognize -- it was peter's father. alan smith was an amazing jazz musician and educator who helped to break the color barrier in san francisco nightclubs, particularly in my district. he passed away very recently, literally about a week and a half ago, and i want to extend my condolences to the family. allen arrived in san francisco in 1946 and attended san francisco state on the gi bill. he played with a stunning list of jazz giants such as duke ellington, quincy jones, bennie goodman, as

the kennedy presidency, nasa, but dr. king. i married a man who was also a dreamer. i have been blessed to have been in jobs where humanity is served. 80 people had a dream that the of hard first could be heard through them. -- believes that the youth in san francisco should have a say of what goes on here and and they should be represented in some way. i am privileged to have gone into a job like this because it is and honor to serve about a dream. thank you. get the >> it is might honor to make the next introduction to our next honoree. i would like to invite up -- ibm

not long ago, dr. king mentioned in the world summit conference that we need to reduce the population by 90%. that is what red china is doing you can obtain a copy of the speech on radioliberty.com if you think i'm lying. good for you, rush. i'm of the opinion that the 1335 days in the book of daniel is anywhere from november 27, 2009, to march 15-16, 2010. in other words, there was a 108- day window for opening for the conclusion of the so-called 1335 days, which i interpret as 287- year cycles -- 28 seven-year cycles from christ. probably 5108 days, which ended either on the last day of the sabbatical cycle or the first day of the sabbatical cycle. i cannot legitimately stretch it out. i mentioned one time that my last day of my 50th year was my son daniels 4444 day, which does not mean anything other than i would still be 50 years old, even though at 50 years old and 365 days. i know i came up here time after time saying christ is going to return around thanksgiving of 2009, but if i could have an hour,

dr. king's vision and i look at the continue until of his work and how we try to embody that here, theres gone to be the less fortunate among you and you try to address that need. >> the need that he refers to is being met every year when he offers free dental care on 7rtin luther king's birth day. >> i started my practice in 1998, so on that first martin luther king day, there was a family that had some needs in my office. i said come by on martin luther king day, i'll come this. so it kind of grew from one family. and i said, again, as a dentist, what is the best way i can give back and the best way i can give back is with what i'm trained to do. >> he said when he accepted hishi hisdy l hisdydy proceed in a, he was never going to leave anybody in discomfort. and that was the truth. the african proverb it takes a whole village. >> community has whu my entire life helped me to get through some challenging times. and so part of what i'd like to do here is just make a thank yo& back to people because i have been able to be successful as a dentist. thank you for making the time to come in.

dr. martin luther king but even more to advance the march of dr. martin luther king towards a pledge as old as the revolution and the civil war, that all of us are created equal. in his first term and the senate, edward kennedy wrote bigotry of the past out of our emigration laws. he vote for civil rights and voting rights, for fair housing and fair employment, for education and equal access to health care. in all his time in public life, he was proud to speak for those who had no voice and to fight on, even when it was out of fashion, to make sure that no one was left without help or hope. he was a sponsor of the sanctions that brought down the mighty walls of apartheid in south africa. [applause] yes, and he was so proud of that. on affirmative action, on the rights of the majority to our women and the minority who are of different ethnicity, ability, or sexual orientation, he sought to fill dr. king's vision that we are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. and that, as both men knew, was true not alo

dr. king those other pastors were very specific and educational about ensuring the life of the people were being addressed. i think pastors and church leaders have to be pro-active, have to be involved on community levels with various political things that are going on and be a voice, a strong voice from the pulpit but in a very pro-active and intelligent way because the plan is fantastic because of economic development and education. those are things we need so desperately in our community. >> where does the criminal justice system come in. you are with the oakland police department and the chief batts has tried innovative reforms there? >> the oakland police department's stance is pretty much this. we believe in coalition with the faith based communities and skoomgs and afterschool programs to address really address the ce issues what is going on. violence is a huge issue. the majority of the shootings and the victims' of the shootings are african-american youth. we knowsome at some point th

tavis: i personally think that dr. king is the greatest american we have ever produced. is up there? but you mentioned king a moment ago, and king could take risks, but king could not sell records. i raise that to ask whether or not there is a price that you pay as an artist for being as outspoken as you are about so many issues now. >> i am not sure how to quantify it, but i am sure there is somebody out there who does not like what i said. tavis: they might not by my right -- your records. >> they may not buy my records. maybe they are a conservative. maybe they are a conservative. maybe they are a teacher. i feel it is a risk i willing to take. i feel that the stakes are high enough that i care about that it is worth losing a few record sales. i am going to be fine, but the people we are working to help, they may not be fine. tavis: tell us some other stuff on here, how you made those choices. >> we picked songs from some huge artists, some people who were well known. we did a marvin gaye song, "holy holy," and there are some that maybe people do not know so well. ther

dr. king mull visit hill on the overall declining sperm count among american men and what's causing it. >> dave and terry have been trying to get pregnant for five years and assumed the problem was hers. >> it never crossed my mind that i was infertile or would have an issue with fertility. >> do you think men think much about their fertility, their future fertility. >> no, men do not think about fertility. they are immortal. >> guys are like cars. >> men are engines that run hard almost all the time and you can give it diluted fuel, water it down, you know, get it out of tune somehow. >> reporter: diluting the fuel, not something most men like to think about, but according to studies in europe and the u.s. sperm counts and sperm quality have been dropping for the past 50 years and guys typically have no idea how the environment or their own lifestyle can affect fertility. >> you know, you can bring a sperm can't to zero taking hot baths every other day for a month, it will take you three mont

dr. king's hometown of atlanta, georgia. >> when i hit record, it's going to flash white. >> teens were invitedare their own personal dreams. >> my "i have a dream" is i really want to be on broadway. >> i would like to become a music teacher and i'd like to work at the academy of the theater arts. ♪ i love you a bushel and a peck, a bushel and a peck and a hug around the net neck ♪ >> the junior theater festival's mission includes building musical theater programs in schools where programs do not exist. >> to inspire students and teachers in deserving communities, there's a special sponsored schools program. >> a big, great big junior theater festival welcome to our first sponsored group tonight, the atlanta youth academy from southwest atlanta. >> some of these kids are new arrivals to america. forced to flee war or poverty, they came to this country to start a new life. >> many of the students from our school who are attending this festival are refugees and it's been the first opportunity for them to perform in a place like this. it was just an awe-inspiring experience, so i think a confiden

we met with dr. king. he came to our church. he was beaten. you could see that on television every night where the ministers were beaten trying to get people to vote down in new orleans and baton rouge. when i came down here, the same thing was going on. we went to san francisco state university to get my credentials and my master's degree. we had to close the school down to get to ethnic studies. the police marching on us at san francisco state. after leaving new orleans and coming here, it was still a fight. comparing the schools, yes, i can see the different -- i can see the difference. those parents are there, and they bring in money for those schools, and they have all kinds of book fairs and arts festivals, computer labs, and at hunters point, it is a whole different story. you do not have a computer labs there. we do not have a parent involvement. it is a total difference. >> your perspective on jamal, awaiting the decision on whether he will be executed or spend his life in prison. >> he should be released. [applause] one of my profess

i would like to remind our leadership we don't honor dr. king because of his dream, we honor him because of his hard work and dedication in pursuing his dream. his last call was for economic justice. here we are in 2011 with a 9.6% unemployment rate in this country. however, in the african-american community that unemployment rate is 15.8%. we must ask why such a huge gap and what are we going to do to close that gap and bring unemployment down for everyone? at this time, and at this moment, we need king-like determination. we need king-like courage. and we need a king-like vision to create jobs in this country, not more campaign rhetoric. my colleagues on the other side of the aisle, show me the jobs. show the american people the jobs. the congressional resolution that the republicans offer will not lower the unemployment rate in this country, it will do quite the opposite. the continuing resolution will eliminate 700,000 jobs. if their plan passes, then 700,000 more americans will face financial uncertainty. that 700,000 more families who will

. >> jimmy: dr. kinging on you now. >> i have a dream black boys will get together and have baby -- kidding. you know that is going to on youtube. >> jimmy: it's a dream. sometimes you dream weird things. you won an acaddemy award acros the street from here. [ applause ] where do you keep it? >> i contindon't keep it with m. i have a lot of friends that don't have a social security number. even when i won the oscar, i didn't go to the vanity fair -- i went to kick with it the homeys. i went to the party and they took the trophy out of my hands and i lost the trophy for 45 minutes. and over in the corner, i think people were smoking medicinal. and he was like, man, i got contact. and you know how he is like this. and by the time he got through my friends, he was like this. >> jimmy: he turned into the heisman. it's probably for the best you don't have it in the house then. >> they filed a complaint. >> jimmy: when you hear about charl ch charlie sheen, that is like -- >> that just a thursday for me. a coup

dr. king's most famous speech. by hasan know that tonight i will be judged not by the color of my skin but by the contents of a comedy routine. please be kind. [applauding] >> the nicest congressional district in alabama. what is that like? pablo it sounds awesome. [laughter] where are you, but? [laughter] americans were first introduced to our final speaker in 1997 when he appeared as the seventh most interesting cast member on the real world boston. [laughter] perhaps keeping in mind that footage might make its way into an attack ad 13 years later, john duffy, a conservative republican kept it pretty clean. must be honest, there was an exchange or two that was a little dicey. he knows what i am talking about. duffy later married the only other conservative to appear on mtv, a cast member from the real world san francisco. they had six children. somehow during that ten years he has been a prosecutor he has posted a 90% trial success rate. ladies and gentlemen, a politician who can truly claimed real-world experien

dr. king's most famous speech. by hasan know that tonight i will be judged not by the color of my skin but by the contents of a comedy routine. please be kind. [applauding] >> the nicest congressional district in alabama. what is that like? pablo it sounds awesome. [laughter] where are you, but? [laughter] americans were first introduced to our final speaker in 1997 when he appeared as the seventh most interesting cast member on the real world boston. [laughter] perhaps keeping in mind that footage might make its way into an attack ad 13 years later, john duffy, a conservative republican kept it pretty clean. must be honest, there was an exchange or two that was a little dicey. he knows what i am talking about. duffy later married the only other conservative to appear on mtv, a cast member from the real world san francisco. they had six children. somehow during that ten years he has been a prosecutor he has posted a 90% trial success rate. ladies and gentlemen, a politician who can truly claimed real-world experien

dr. king's most famous speech. by hasan know that tonight i will be judged not by the color of my skin but by the contents of a comedy routine. please be kind. [applauding] >> the nicest congressional district in alabama. what is that like? pablo it sounds awesome. [laughter] where are you, but? [laughter] americans were first introduced to our final speaker in 1997 when he appeared as the seventh most interesting cast member on the real world boston. [laughter] perhaps keeping in mind that footage might make its way into an attack ad 13 years later, john duffy, a conservative republican kept it pretty clean. must be honest, there was an exchange or two that was a little dicey. he knows what i am talking about. duffy later married the only other conservative to appear on mtv, a cast member from the real world san francisco. they had six children. somehow during that ten years he has been a prosecutor he has posted a 90% trial success rate. ladies and gentlemen, a politician who can truly claimed real-world experien

dr. martin luther king." and we're going to pretty much have a lot of subtle messages saying, "well, what if this happened to america? and this is how we feel." and i happened to be in hamburg, germany, when all of it was going down. and like i said, it was like--it was a highlight of my career, being that we played in arizona with u2 in sun devil stadium, no pun intended. you know, everybody was expecting the big p.e. show to open up for u2. and we played that song and then got off the stage. and by the next year, they voted in a dr. martin luther king holiday. my whole thing was saying that you can spur and you can trigger minds into not being so much asleep by using art, using song, to make them think progressively against what's wrong or what's ignored. oftentimes, when we're not heard or seen while we're in pain, you know, it's business as usual in america. and my whole thing is to say, "well, sometimes it can't be business as usual, because slavery was business as usual." and if you have the discussion

dr. king's dream alive. georgia, ho.georgie and h >> reporter: the big question is what can happen to the students, what schools are they going to go to whether this step and the faculty going to end up there still lot of unanswered questions. right now, a lot of set faces i can tell you their kids, parents who are extremely emotional about this. >> james: >> james: thank you, we will keep following this story and the chino when the board makes a decision. >> darya: an oakland woman is in the hospital after being raped, beaten at her prompting a complex it had indeed hundred complex that is near lake merritt. you can see google maps, this woman was returning to our home and mount tam when she was attacked this is the fourth time since december that a woman has been insulted. the other results haven't on the other side of the lake. check this out, and cameras capturing a strong armed robbery in the tenderloin it happened sunday afternoon. i gang attacking a woman taking off with her wallet. police arrested fi

dr. king's assassination, even a night at the grand old opre. we're doing this trip. we have a few places left on the bus, and if anyone is interested, there will two ways. they can call. there is a phone number. 202-621-7250-, and there is online www. presidentsandpatriots.com. host: seven presidents, two kings, and the american century in 10 unforgettable days. guest: people that go with us on these strip trips are people who have been with us before, so that's pretty good advertisement. host: denise is joining us from the independent line as we reflect on the president's legacy on the anniversary of his 100th birth. guest: i have to say when i was in high school reagan was elected and at that moment i knew i would have no future. i became a hair salon worker instead of a lawyer because the grants and loans were cut. i believe reagan is the beginning of the despairity between our classes at this moment. guest: it is an interesting perspective. i saw that from a different direction. i think that ronald reagan unintentionally -- remember, particularly presidents that