spivak: dr. king, the a.p. reported the other day that a picture of you taken in 1957 at a tennessee inter-racial school is being plastered all over alabama billboards with the caption, martin luther king at a communist training school. will you tell us whether that was a communist training school and what you were doing there? dr. king: well, number one i don't think it was a communist training school. in fact, i know it wasn't. the highlander folk school which was referred to in that particular article, was a school that pioneered in bringing negroes and whites together at a time when it was very unpopular, to train them for leadership all over the south, and i think they did an able job in doing it. this school was supported by some of the great americans such as eleanor roosevelt, reinhold niebuhr, harry golden, and many others that i could name. secondly, the fact is that i never attended the school, as far as training goes. i was there about one hour back in 1957 or 1958. i went to deliver an address for t

, a dr. king made but it denies the truth of his own story which is not that he began swept up in history that took him like a tidal wave into montgomery bus boycott. he fell on the other end with rustin by side and give him counsel on how to fight the good fight and that it was just about civil rights and was just about a seat at the table and just by being able to be first class citizens but in fact he already came with the kind of economic blueprint built-in. by the time you get to the vietnam war, by the time he seen the limits of legislative action and the sub rights movement he's already been committed to fundamental revolutionary change. the kind of change that as you estimate others have pointed out ships this country from an oriented society to a people oriented society. >> guest: you are at the be right. when we talk to our dear rather harry belafonte, one of the great freedom fighter still alive who meets martin very young. you see that wonderful picture of them in the basement the firs

i knew who king was but never studied dr. king. when i started listening to king's voice on the records peter and i heard love in his heart and hope in his soul, it brought me back to life as i said. it, king was talking to a nation about the power of love, about the power of forgiveness. that hatred was not an option. revenge was never going to work. he is talking to a nation about these ideals but might as well have been talking to a 12-year-old kid about love and forgiveness and hatred and revenge. i heard king talking to me. so when i said earlier that he literally saved my life, when i heard his voice on all those records he did. from whatever on what i tried to do with all my work, radio tv print, philanthropy, try to make the world safe for his legacy. >> host: april 4th, 1968 what was dr. king's mind set what was the last day of his life like? >> guest: last day is quite remarkable. night before, we said a moment ago given the mountaintop speech at mason temple in memphis. the morning after he was feeling pretty good. he had

here king is giving tribute to dr. dubois attribute that i had not read andy describes in the tribute that in dubois' on work he had identified the keystone and the arch of oppression of inferiority. and that history books had to lie or it met the capacity to govern. here he is inspired by dubois in 1935 which very well very much would have been part of his educational learning even though he was only 10 years old when it was published. he says in his tribute that dubois writes about the death of a people's history and its consequences. to lose one's history is to lose one's self-understanding and with it the root of pride. it's not enough to be angry he says. people must organize and unite and when history had been distorted american history had been distorted because are too big of a part of the nation to be written out without destroying scientific history. this is a fascinating not only a fascinating tribute but a fascinating challenge to the listeners of this tribute as we know right now that history is under atta

two years late ere, dr. king took his struggle to selma, ael al. king and 600 civil rights supporters attempted to march to montgomery, alabama, by way of the edmond-pettis bridge. they were met with tear gas and billy clubs. the clash was televised around the world and would become to be known as bloody sunday. a few weeks later, on march march 21st 1965 dr. king successfully led the march from selma to montgomery. where he delivered speech to the al alabama state capitol where he quoted battle hymn of the republic in a song that became the anthem of the civil rights movement. here with us today is the washington performing arts children of the gospel choir who will perform a medley of spirituals. get on board, little children, oh, freedom. and america the beautiful. they will conclude with the battle hymn of the republic echoing the conclusion of dr. king's montgomery speech. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ is [ applause ] ♪ oh, freedom ♪ ♪ oh, freedom ♪ ♪ oh freedom for thee ♪ ♪ and be that i a slave and be that free in my life ♪ ♪ and the home to my lord ♪ ♪ and be fre

a story about dr. king we don't know. but tater branch and david garrow and clayborne carson can't say their names up in. without them doing the heavy lifting the story of king's life and work and witness wouldn't be known. but the thing that most surprised me -- i knew most of this from years of research -- it's remarkable to consider that king has all this hell and all this hate coming at him, there are fbi spies inside his organization. his treasurerrer mr. harrison is on the fbi payroll. the photographer shooting him is on the fbi payroll. i could go on. sew his catching hell from the outside. being spied on and abandoned frankly from the inside by his own people, and never in all the hours and hours and hours of audiotape, all the hours of surveillance tape they have on dr. king not one time do we ever hear king contesting the humanity of any other human being. not demonizing, not denigrating. it's just remarkable for somebody to be infused to be filled with that kind of love. we live in world now where so many people

augustine movement, dr. king said some cities had to bear the cross for the rest of america, and st. augustine was one of those cities. i think the fact that st. augustine and what happened here was messing, it was violent -- the fact that st. augustine is a small town, and a lot of people here know each other and remember which side of the proverbial street they were on in 1964 and 1965, has made it really hard to digest come in terms of, what happened here why was it important, and what is the true legacy of the st. augustine movement? i think that does a disservice to the movement. st. augustine represents the movement as a whole, in my opinion. it was not an easy to understand movement, in my opinion. it is a movement that still influences activities, beliefs feelings today. just like in many other parts of history, we do ourselves a disservice by ignoring what happened. we do ourselves a disservice by not focusing on st. augustine and what we can learn about the movement. its progression. its focus. most imp

he was a civil rights hero and he was a friend of dr. king who used his spellbinding sermons to spread the gospel and open people's hearts and minds. he taught and mentor to countless young ministers. so as we mourn his absence today we also take solace that he leaves a living legacy, and that he is in a better place. i am no preacher. i can't tell anything to this crowd about easter that you don't already know. i can offer a couple reflections very quickly before we begin. for me, the celebration of easter puts our earthly concerns into perspective. with humility and with all we give thanks to the extraordinary sacrifice of jesus christ our savior reflect on the brutal pain he suffered, the scorn that he absorbed, the sins that he bore, his extraordinary gift of salvation that he gave to us. we try as best we can to comprehend what he endured that we might receive god's light. but even as we grapple with the sheer enormity of jesus tossed 's sacrifice, on easter we can't lose sight of the fact that -- the story keeps on going. on sunday come

two years late ere, dr. king took his struggle to selma, ael al. ear gas and billy clubs. the clash was televised around the world and would become to be known as bloody sunday. a few weeks later, on march march 21st 1965 dr. king successfully led the march from selma to montgomery. where he delivered speech to the al alabama state capitol where he quoted battle hymn of the republic in a song that became the anthem of the civil rights movement. here with us today is the washington performing arts children of the gospel choir who will perform a medley of spirituals. get on board, little children, oh, freedom. and america the beautiful. they will conclude with the battle hymn of the republic echoing the conclusion of dr. king's montgomery speech. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ is [ applause ] ♪ oh, freedom ♪ ♪ oh, freedom ♪ ♪ oh freedom for thee ♪ ♪ and be that i a slave and be that free in my life ♪ ♪ and the home to my lord ♪ ♪ and be free ♪ ♪ oh freedom ♪ ♪ oh, freedom ♪ ♪ oh freedom over thee and before i be a slave i'll be buried in my grave ♪ ♪ and go home to my lord

dr. carson, the late coretta scott king selected you sir, to edit and polish the papers of-- and polish the pape polish -- publish the papers of dr. martin king. >> in a sense it's a parallel in that lincoln believed the second inaugural was the better speech than the gettysburg address. the world has told king the better speech was the "i have a dream" speech. arguably the speech he gave in memphis was a better speech a fuller speech. it was a more coherent speech. i think what he was trying to do was sum up the meaning of his life. he had reached the point where he was ready for death but he had always been ready for that. i think what he was coming to decide was that he was not going to accomplish his great goals in life. some people, most of you perhaps think of him as a civil rights leader. he did not think of himself that way. he was a social gospel minister who got recruited into the civil rights movement by rosa parks. she's the one who made him into a civil rights leader and he did that fairly well, all of us would agree for about 10 years. the civil rights agenda was pretty well c

and, by the way one of the things i discovered, he was very close to dr. king. he had, he had come to the rescue of king's birmingham crusade financially when they were running out of bail money for the kids who were demonstrating in birmingham. and then, of course, tragically when dr. king was killed in april 1968 nelson called mrs. king and the follow-up was sent his advance men and organized and paid for dr. king's funeral. c-span: when was that first known? >> guest: he didn't want it known. he said to the advance men who i talked with that we don't want to take advantage of the family's suring. suffering. c-span: so when was it first published? >> guest: when he died. there was a little story to that effect. the full story only comes out now. but the other critical thing that happened between during that month was on april 23rd he was smuggled with happy into the johnson white house. i talked to the man who took him in and took him out -- c-span: who was that? >> guest: larry temple, the head of the johnson foundation now. but young staffer then. and, of cou

dr. bernice king the daughter of the late dr. martin luther king jr., president of the king center in atlanta, thank you so much. and thank you for inviting me to co-emcee your king center dinner dinner. it was a great honor to participate in that event. >> thank you very much. >>> still ahead, hillary clinton jumped into the presidential race in 2008 with a weekend announcement on her website. now word coming that the former senator, the former secretary of state is planning to make her big announcement on social media this coming sunday. why now? why on a sunday? stay with us. i'm brian vickers, nascar® driver. i'm kevin nealon comedian. and i'm arnold palmer, professional golfer. know what we have in common? we talked to our doctors about treatment with xarelto®. me, when i had a blood clot in my leg that could have traveled to my lungs. that's why i took xarelto®, too. xarelto® is proven to treat and help reduce the risk of dvt and pe blood clots. i took xarelto® for afib... an irregular heartbeat that can lead to a stroke fro

dr. king the niece of martin luther king, taking all of this in. you had written a letter to the mayor, trying to urge caution here and to dial that language back. >> i was trying to explain to the mayor and i hope she got it it's an open letter on social media. maybe the viewer can help us get that to her. of you look at those children throwing the rocks and the anger and then being stirred on by outside agitators. in the 1960s the children's march, we were calm, we were orderly, we were prayerful and so we knew how to demonstrate peacefully. no one has instructes these young children. then the mayor gives an invitation to destroy and economically and morally that's disaster and i don't know if she -- if she is the head of the city she should be thinking. >> she did use the line a couple of times enough space for those who want to destroy. what do you think she meant by that? >> i'm trying to wrap my head around it. i it just doesn't make sense. if she is saying there will be people who want

mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the lord. >> the next day we lost dr. king on. we as a people will get to the promised land. we as a people. meaning all of the people, black and white, men and women, straight and gay. this weekend states like indiana and arkansas we saw people take to the streets and twitter to demand equal rights and equal protection under the law. we've seen over the last year from ferguson to staten island to cleveland, people still in quest years later for that promised land and still believing that somehow we'll get there. i was 13 when dr. king was killed. i was youth director of his organization in new york. i've seen a lot go on and a lot not go on in those 47 years, but i still believe dr. king's promise that we'll get to the promised land but we won't get there without having each other struggle with us, and we won't get there if we're too lazy to keep pursuing it. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. have a good weekend. "hardball" starts right now. >>> the war party. let's play "hardball." >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in

i mean they're a little too young for the dr. kingy aware of him. and what was the most poignant moments or thoughts that they shared with you at the end of the day? >> one of -- well first of all, they are too young to remember that dr. king era. one of the most poignant moment was from an old student that said my mom worked at one of those businesses. now she doesn't have a job. that broke my heart. it was a former student. his mom didn't have a job because it was burned down. i think that they see it. they see this first hand. they see it on the news. then to witness it. they've never seen anything like this. think about this. 16-year-olds that have seen this riot rioting, mass destruction in their own neighborhood. think just want to make it better. hey, we just want to make it better. >> good on them for saying that. is it more of a sense of not understanding or do they understand all too well why this is happening? is it anger, frustration, sadness, all of the above? >> i think it's all of the above. i think it's a lot of anger.

>> dr. king was assassinated on a thursday night. remained peaceful for friday and saturday. and other cities were erupting. then on saturday gay street, lootsing, a fire started. -- looting, a foyer started in a furniture star on gay street. it continued for the next week. >> on almost some of the same blocks correct, that we have seen these fires started here? >> that's right. definitely the same streets. >> do you remember this? >> no. i was born in 1968. >> forgive me, i didn't -- wasn't going judge your age. what i was reading in one of your interviews is in your time the 20th century issues with changing of laws, certain races living on certain blocks, there was a tinderbox that was bubbling and bubbling, and perhaps it was the dr. king assassination such as the freddie gray death here. that you have this bubbling and then poof. >> right. there was historical trends that had been taking place in baltimore. red lining -- people trying to fix up houses buy a house. in 1910 the first laws in the nation that said there would be som

monument now sits on the national mall in honor of dr. king. >>> part of govern brown's executive drought includes streamlining the process for water train structure process. >> reporter: santa barbara had a desalination plant built -- desalination plan bill before. it will evaporate the water and leave the salt in the ocean. engineers are trying to mimic mother nature. 5 teams will bede ploy machines built to run on renewable energy to provide this clean water. the desalination plant, issue is south of latch, scheduled to open in 2016. >>> evacuations of a popular camp ground due to a growing fire has been lifted. it's burning just outside of fresno. people are being asked to travel slowly, because crews are still in the area. crews are battling the names from the ground and the air. no buildings are threatened and no reports of any injuries. bryan? >>> hopefully that's not a sign of things to come. for now, we have a blast of winter here in the beginning of spring as some arctic air comes in from the gulf of alaska. we've really felt it toda

dr. king's fight for civil rights.sure to introduce you to rechb roger ginch of new york avenue presbyterian church to deliver the invocation. >> let us pray. oh god you raised up a profit for us in abraham lincoln who's spirit of humility and courage are a model for us today. out of his life cut short, amid a war that ruptured family and country, the spirit of the man rose in the life of his people to heal the nation of what was a great offense of slavery. in the spirit of lincoln we come bold his before you today giving thanks for his witness and pray it may continue to inspire us for the month men us to struggle for freedom and equality that continues to this day. for out of the caldron of the civil war and lincoln's role in it, a robust vision of freedom was given, yet another set of wings that carried another great profit to the very steps of this national temple. one who took us to a mountain top to see the other side, sharing with us the dream of a day when this nation would rise up and live out the true meaning

in the spring of 1968, dr. king.e was assassinated while standing at the second floor ball canny in memphis. james early ray was convicted of the crime and sentenced to 99 years in prison. a monument now sits on the national mall in honor of dr. king. >>> furious 7 is leading early box office projections in the dust. analyst expect the latest installment of the series to earn up to $140 million this weekend. there's no doubt fans are lining up to see actor paul walker's final ride. cnn reports. >> >> almost had you. >> reporter: just how tight this cast came before the release of the first fast and the furious. >> you hear about egos and people difficult to work with, but everyone in this, we got along -- really well. >> he was the best gator around in the world. so he's a very missed. >> reporter: he died in late 2013 riding in of 600- horsepower that wrecked. 5000 fans paid respect. >> he wasn't like every other celebrity. >> reporter: no doubt he connected because he seemed so antihollywood. his generosity legenda

was a live. >> that's correct. >> we act like we didn't have riots -- dr. king had cities that he couldn't talk to. and he himself heckled in certain cities. so we've always had those whose tempers would boil over but it was always because they felt they were unheard. and this is not the way to be heard but we've seen this happen in the day of dr. king. this year we celebrated the 50th anniversary of the vote rights act, but also the 50th anniversary of the watch riots, senator. >> that's right. and since i was born in '64, i know exactly about what happened because my family made sure we knew about it. but let me say this. that although we -- you had people who in 1964 and '65, they were protesting and that they were they were challenging whatever was happening. they had a goal. and i'm not so sure that today, these kids have any goals, other than to burn the cvs, or to burn the -- >> reverend if i can -- >> and that's problematic, because it's one thing when you have a goal and you have a righteous goal but i do not believe the kids out there have any kind of

. >> dr. king was not from selma, montgomery or birmingham but dr. ing was in those areas. >> during the height of the riots there, police made nightly arrests. >> we had people coming in from all over the world starting fires. we want to show solidarity with our brothers and sisters and we intend to protest peacefully. >> about time to do something about this here. >> abdul will be one from baltimore out protesting tomorrow. nearly two years ago, he was pulled over for talking on his cell phone and failing to restrain a child with a safety belt. he said police beat him in his own driveway where his 3-year-old watched. >> once he slammed me from there, he picked me and worked me all the way to the very spot where we stand. >> police say it was because you were resisting. >> at no point did i arrest. >> all of these cops he ain't going nowhere. >> police ultimately dropped the charges but this man says he's speaking out so no one has to endure what he went through. >> so the process is changed. until the policy is changed we want results immediately be

king spoke two americas. he described them. ♪ described them. >> as two different americas side by side. >> dr. paul loves dr. king.think i like it and see your point. >> it works for anything layery. you want to go to the knicks game? >> larry: i'm a lakers fan ♪ come on and get your knicks fix, come on. >> larry: i want to go. it's amazing. mike and the night lights, everybody. we will be right back. >> amazing. it works. >> larry: mmmm, they made french toast out of banana bread, then topped it with candied pecans and bananas? it's like a match made in heaven. like bacon & eggs... ...oh look, bacon & eggs. the new banana bread french toast slam. denny's. welcome to america's diner. ♪ ♪ the further you go the more interesting it gets. this is the pursuit of perfection. [cheers and applause] >> larry: okay. welcome back. now obviously tonight i need to talk about what is going on in south carolina. i want to say something for the record. now last saturday a white cop in south carolina killed a black man named walter scott. officer slager stopped scott for a busted tail light and he ended up dead. the police say sc

a show of force not seen here since the rioting that followed the assassination of dr. kingn 1968. this 25-year-old taken into police custody on sunday april 12th. the arrest captured by a bystander cell phone. screaming unable to walk as officers drag him into a transport van. reportedly when he arrived at the police station a half hour later, he wasn't able to breathe, talk. medics rushed him to the hospital. a few days later he slipped into a coma. later died from a severe spinal injury. the results of the investigation into the death is expected friday. prosecutor will then decide whether to file charges. >> do you trust the process? >> the police part of it? absolutely not. >> bill murphy is the gray's family attorney. >> why would anybody rationale trust their process. >> the troubles here fit disturbingly into the national narrative, black men dying after encounters with the police. from eric garner walter scott in south carolina but baltimore is different. the police department is 48% black. the troubles here exacerbated by economic devastation. the city ranks tenth

in no way a justification for the riots that have taken place, but the riots are the language as dr. king said of those who felt like they are unheard. and i and the community stand with the community to say we hear you and we are not going to allow this to deter us but we are going to be determined even more to see more young people over come as i was afforded the opportunity. >> dr. king of course also preached nonviolence. we're going to talk about that a little bit later on in the show. i don't know if you got a chance donte, to hear the president today. he spoke about an hour ago. i want to play a snippet of that for you for you to react to where he was talking about some of the buildings that were burned down last night. here's the president. >> in one burning building will be looped on television over and over and over again and the thousands of demonstrators who did it the right way, i think, have been lost in the discussion. >> so what do you make of that where he -- >> yeah last night -- last night i was in west baltimore rallying with other pastors to get from behind the camera

dr. king said in 1966 the riot is the language of the unheard.onight, city officials in baltimore and the clergy are listening. we will see what daylight brings. we return now to new york and my colleague rebecca jarvis for the rest of our broadcast. >> thank you, byron. stay safe. we will have more in the morning on "gma." >>> coming up next for us here, she was the first person bruce jenner trusted with his most intimate secret. tonight chrystie scott speaks about their personal family struggles then and now. >>> and warm up time. what brought "dancing with the stars" contestants back together for highly anticipated anniversary special. and clearer skin. this is my body of proof that i can fight psoriatic arthritis from the inside out... with humira. humira works by targeting and helping to block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to both joint and skin symptoms. it's proven to help relieve pain, stop further joint damage and clear skin in many adults. doctors have been prescribing humira for nearly 10 years. >>humira can lower

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when i think about religion and politics, i think of men like dr. kingmen and women who believed in the spirit of love and who tried to preach love. i am a -- a catholic. i'm a vatican ii catholic. a sermon of the mount christian. and i'm also -- but i'm a gettysburg address american. i believe religion is to serve the common good. to help people. not to divide people. >> it's been so contentious. >> it has. there's an incredible opportunity in america today for somebody to rise up and bridge the divide that seems to exist between faith and compassion and faith and tolerance. i think part of the problem in america today in politics and in religion that we have is that ideology and theology becomes more important than humanity. i'm a pope francis catholic. he says we need to worry about the people that were the outcasts. which is what jesus did. >> anybody out there to lead that? >> i think it's a tough act. >> very optimistic. >> i american politics is fascinating. he was deeply involved in obama's efforts to open cuba. the pope is coming to the white ho

on april 4 1967, stanford university dr. king described these issues in his two americas speech. he said there's one america. one america is overflowing with the milk of prosperity and honey of opportunity. tragically and unfortunately there's another america. this other america has a daily ugliness about it that constantly transforms of hope into the fatigue of despair. the ugly fact is that two americas still exist nearly five decades later. an african-american male is killed by a police officer, a self-proclaimed vigilanty one in every 24 hours. a reason why men from communities of color unfortunately make up more than 70% of the united states prison population. and sadly, our laws have a criminal -- having a criminal justice record -- means a lifetime barrier to the honey of opportunity as dr. king described. a formerly incarcerated individual who has paid his or her time can't get a pell grant. 10 states enforce lifetime bans on receiving food assistance, snap benefits for drug-related felonies only. drug-related felonies. these limitations are a component of the system that

it acts like dr. king would approve of riot but he absolutely did not. riot is self-destructive and hurts our community i think in this case and in most cases more than the people against whom we think we are rioting. and history reflects that. i have now -- minei mean getting older is not a pleasant thing, but you get the longview of history. i've now seen why. i've seen watts. i've seen los angeles in the wake of rodney king and i can name unrest. i don't like to call them riots, but it's so loaded. unrest after unrest after unrest. the question is what do we gain if anything from it? i really do want to ask, you know, as dr. dyson and dr. west battle it out in the -- two men i love love and know personally and respect. as they battle it out in the ivory towers of america, where is our leadership? if we're going to have violence in the streets, as is in revolution revolution, in our great american revolution john adams said if you're going to tear something down what do you plan to put in its place? what is the purpose of revolution? this is not a revo

rioting is specifically, it is the voice of the unheard or it is the language of the unheard as dr. king famously said. and right now you have a group of people that feel marginalized. feel like their voices are not being heard. so they feel like this is the only way that their voices can be heard. and while we're placing this into context we certainly don't condone the violence but we have to place it in the context. this is happening in a community where historically their voices haven't been heard. so this is a result of decades and decades of treatment of unfair treatment on the part of the police department. >> i don't want to wear this question out but you have an african american mayor. all of those people at the press conference are african american in leadership positions in the city of baltimore. they were elected by the people of baltimore who are majority african americans. so why aren't their voices being heard? >> well, if you look at the police department, if you look at historically the fact that in has been millions and millions of dollars in the last few years that have

. >> this was 10 years before rosa parks, the montgomery busboy time and dr. king prompted the executive order that was signed by president harry s. trueman desegregating the armed forces. >> battle's life was also defined by jazz music. he played professionally, helped integrate the redskins band and was a beloved music educator and mentor in prince george's county schools more than 30 years. battle died at the age of 93. >>> the people running out along the national mall to grab lunch could march to the beat of the drums today. [ drums ] >> though i dare say you'd have to have some serious skills to catch that rhythm. the drumming and dance group from japan performed early this afternoon. that concert was in front of the gallery of art, part of this week's national cherry blossom festival events. the festival wraps up over the weekend just as the park service tells us the blossoms will hit peak bloom. >> that is correct. >>> watch this. i can put up these fingers and topper will know the code. >> the code is the 3-degree guarantee and i'll be sweating it out toda

. >> can you recount any intersection you had with dr king that kind of inspired you to keep doing this i can't say we were best friends or buddies. i had an association with them this time. one time he and i walked across the campus, and i said to him doc, how are you doing - his friends call him doc. >> he said i'm not doing well i feel awful, i have a nightmare. >> i said doc, turn that around say "i have a dream." >> really it came from you, you were the "i have a dream" guy. >> i wouldn't say that. >> what brought you to the movement in the first place. what made you wake up saying "i want to put myself in harm's way and make it better. >> i was going to morehouse college in atlanta. sitting in a drug store having lunch. a student came up and said "have you seen this hell of a newspaper", and said greensboro students state in for a third day. he said have you seen that. >> i said good. he said "don't you think it should happen here." i said "what do you think we?" he took one side of the drug store, i took the other. we started a movement. that was where. >> atlanta. >> you were ho

. >> can you recount for me any interaction you had with dr. king that-- kind of inspired you to keep doing this? >> i can't say we were best friends or buddies. but i had-- some association with him this time this time, someplace else. i remember one time he and i were walking across the morehouse college campus and i said to him, "doc, how you doin'?" his friends called him "doc." he said "julian, i'm not doin' well." he said "unemployment is high. racism's everywhere. segregation's immovable." he said, "i feel awful. i have a nightmare." i said, "doc, turn that around. try, 'i have a dream.'" >> so really it came from you. you were the, "i have a dream, guy-- >> i wouldn't say that. i wouldn't say that. >> but what brought you to the movement in the first place? what made julian bond wake up one day and say, "i wanna (cough) put myself in harm's way and make it better?" >> i was in-- going to morehouse college in atlanta. i was sitting in a drugstore having lunch. a student came up to me and said "have you seen this?" held up a newspaper. newspap

dr. king told the boy "the boy would have been in extreme pain. i can say with an extraordinarily high degree of medical certainty that he did not die instantaneously." earlier the jurors were shown a series of photos of victims, a virtual parade of prosthetic limbs. they saw x-rays of fucarile fiewk's ravaged body. his leg had been blown off dozens of bbs and other shrapnel perp rated every part of him. heather abbott took the stand next, "i was catapulted into the restaurant and i landed on the ground in a puddle of chaos and blood and glass." we first met abbott ten days after the blast. she talked about the agonizing moment herer is john told her she would need to amputate her leg. >> i certainly didn't want to, but to be told i couldn't do things i wanted to do. hopefully i'm going to be around a while. >> reporter: then it was steve woolfenden's turn. he is seen struggling to check on his injured three-year-old son leo in his stroller. woolfenden watched helplessly as his son called "mommy, daddy mommy, daddy," was carried away in the arms o

. >> can you recount for me any interaction you had with dr. king that inspired you to do this?i can say we were best -- i can't say we were best friends or buddies. one time we were walking across the moore house college campus and i said doc, how are you doing? and he sell i am not doing with. you know employment is high. racism is well. segregation. i feel awful. i have a nightmare. i said turn that around. try, i have a dream. >> it came from you? you were the i have a dream guy? when you -- what brought you to the movement in the first place? what made julian bond wake up and say i want to put myself in harm's way and make it better? i was going to moore house college in atlanta, sitting in a drugstore having lunch. a student came up to me and said have you seen this? held up a newspaper and says greensboro students set in for third day said have you seen this? i said yeah. >> what about it? >> i said great, good. said do not you think it ought to happen here? i said what do you mean we? you take this side of the drugstore and i will take the other. we did and we started a

oddly enough and this has got to have people like dr. king spinning in their grave, to hear people describing this as some sort of movement now. >> why, why? because we hear that black lives matter and what we are told is you know folks feel like every week they see another black man get shot by a cop. now in the most recent two cops got charged, but there was videotape, and that's what these folks say. >> right. >> that there's not videotape in every case. when there isn't one, the cops don't get charged. >> but, of course and i think there's a certain amount of justifiable outrage over the killing of freddie gray because it's a very mysterious and bizarre circumstance. obviously the man didn't break his own neck. so then there's clearly incidents here that we need to get more information about. that's why there's a number of investigations going on. but there's almost an infantile urge here to get what they want and get it now on the part of the protesters like i want the kind of justice that i demand and i demand it right now. well that's

dr. martin at the king junior when he wrote a letter from the birmingham jail. dr. king was asked a question. why do you expect some love and others who don't respect. about in that letter that there are two kinds of laws. there are just two hours and just laws are in which the earthly lives and can harmony to a higher law prints both an unjust laws than those laws that collide with higher law. laws that are just have the obligation to obey those laws to obey those laws that are run just have the duty to disobey those because i agree with saint augustine and augustine and other millennia and the teachings of the judeo christian church and history of scriptures that unjust law is no law at all and it cannot be given respect of the law. certain small areas of life in which we encounter an unjust law. an unjust law is not what denominational doctrines are just wins the society, but something that collide with the natural creative order. when we find one law like that it is no law at all. it is in coalition with the higher law principle. neither the united states supreme