dr. kissinger, secretary kissinger. he said no, your excellency will do.[laughter] this is not my plan for tonight. this book, "world order" covers roughly 400 years of diplomatic geopolitical and military history and 45 continents. we have a little less than an hour. when we finish shooting with the whole book, we'll talk about tax policy. but what i want to do is take dr. kissinger, what you have written in c. its application today. anybody looking at the headlines would look at your book and say what world order? the westphalian peace that you talk about where states respect each other's territorial integrity, balance each other out, till interfere, you look at isil, the united states bombing in syria to stop isil, which helps stop with the area and dictator we want now. you have afghanistan which he described really less as a country than a group of tribes essential mode of power is resentment and vengeance. can you look at the world today and actually say cat, something like a world order is neither possible or is that an old concept that is simply no

dr. kissinger and jim baker at the american academy. and we talked about this. it was not the kind of effort that should have been made to say, how else can we use nato. nato was our western alliance and remains that, but it has kind of come unraveled around the edges. it's not as unified as it once was. it was an incredibly important and potent force and facing the east and dealing with issues together, and not always perfectly, but it was the alliance. now it has a lot of parts to it, and they're often not greater than the sum of their parts, which they need to be. the other part of what we're watching here tonight is that it was so thrilling and hard to explain about how the dramatic people who had such a terrible 20th century, mostly self-induced wounds, then were divided. and you'd have people in the west who had cousins in the s i east. the people in the west had democracy, consumer goods, and hope. and when the wall came down, their cousins and the other fellow germans came through in acid washed jeans, two-cycle lottos and automobiles as if they had come

dr. kissinger you have six minutes. ♪ >> that's the hypocritical argument. >> you are obviously trying toed even though you are not chinese. >> women are affected by it -- only once a month and then have raging hormones every day. as i noticed when dick cheney rampaged around the globe like godzilla. the question is no i won't let you leave. [applause] >> are we really prepared to say if you are successful enough we should rip you off. how dare you be so successful. >> why do you want to punish the rich? nobody on my side ever said that is what should happen. ♪ >> imagine a world without religious faith. no worship no prayer nose group sure and no man or woman who because of their faith dedicating their lives to others. >> want to have a plan -- and a cruel experiment to supervise this is to install the celestial dictation in a time of divine north korea. ♪ >> ladies and gentlemen welcome. [applause] welcome to the munk debates on barack obama's foreign policy. my name is rudyard griffiths and it's my privilege to be the organizer of this debate series until once again serve as your moder

dr. kissinger, you have six minutes. >> china is our biggest trading partner?hat is the kind of political argument -- [laughter] >> you are annoying even though you are not funny. >> women are affected by lunar tides only once a month. men are subject to them every single day. as we saw when dick cheney rampaged around the globe like godzilla. >> no! indiscernible] >> the power to tax -- are we prepared to say this is your success limit? you always owe us. ow dare you? >> no one on my side ever says hat. >> imagine indeed a world without religious faith. there are no men or women who because of their faith are dedicating their lives to others. >> it makes us objects in a ruel experiment. it installs a celestial dictatorship, i kind of divine north korea. [laughter] >> ladies and gentlemen, welcome. [applause] welcome to the munk debates on barack obama's foreign policy. it is my privilege to be the organizer of this debate and to once again serve as your moderator. i want to start by welcoming the north american why television and radio audience, from cpac to c

dr. kissinger, you have six minutes. >> would africa be better off if china was not its biggest trading proper? i think if i were chinese, i would find that quite annoying. >> you are obviously finding it annoying even though they are not chinese. >> women are affected by lunar types once a month, and men have raging hormones everyday. >> the question is, are men obsolete? no. >> the power to tax is the power to coerce. are we really prepared to say if you are successful enough we should rip you off? you are owe it to us? how dare you be so successful? >> if you start saying why do you want to punish the rich, nobody on my side ever says that that's what it's about. >> imagine indeed a world without religious faith. not just no place of worship or prayer or scripture, but no women that because of their faith dedicating their lives to others. >> it makes us objects in a cruel experiment and over us to supervise this is install add celestial deictatorship, a kind of design north korea. >>> it's my privilege to be the organizers of the debate series. i want to start tonight by welcoming the north

dr. kissinger, you have six minutes. >> china opened its -- that's the kind of hypocritical argument that i find quite annoying. >> you're obviously trying to get annoying even though you're not trying. >> women are effected by lunar types only once a month. men have raging hormones every day. as we noticed when dick cheney rampaged around the globe like godzilla. >> the question is, no, i won't let you -- >> the power to coerce. are we really prepared to say if you're successful enough, we should rip you off? you owe it to us. how dare you be so successful? >> if you start saying why do you want to punish the rich, i consider that basically a confession of intellectual bankruptcy because nobody on my side ever says that's what it's about. >> imagine you need a world without religious fate, not just no place of worship, no prayer, no scripture, but no men or women because of their faith, dedicating their lives to others. >> once you create a plan, it makes us objects in a cruel experiment, and in order to supervise this, has installed a celestial leadership, a kind of divine north korea.

dr. kissinger and jim baker at the american academy. and we talked about this. it was not the kind of effort that should have been made to say, how else can we use nato. nato was our western alliance and remains that, but it has kind of come unraveled around the edges. it's not as unified as it once was. it was an incredibly important and potent force and facing the east and dealing with issues together, and not always perfectly, but it was the alliance. now it has a lot of parts to it, and they're often not greater than the sum of their parts, which they need to be. the other part of what we're watching here tonight is that it was so thrilling and hard to explain about how the dramatic people who had such a terrible 20th century, mostly self-induced wounds, then were divided. and you'd have people in the west who had cousins in the east. the people in the west had democracy, consumer goods, and hope. and when the wall came down, their cousins and the other fellow germans came through in acid washed jeans, two-cycle lottos and automobiles as if they had come fro

dr. kissinger and jim baker we are saying the same thing.a better job managing the transition to a democratic russia than we did at the time. but it's a lesson in history again about how swiftly things can change and how the consequences can be unintended and difficult to deal with. >> i want to thank you for your time today. it's a pleasure hearing from you. we're looking forward to this hour-long special. >> 11:00 sports channel wednesday night. >> 11:00 p.m. wednesday night we'll be watching. tom, thank you. >>> okay. when we come back, coming up an update on the deals of the morning. plus a "squawk" exclusive. jerome powell is going to join us for the future of interest rates. the market needs to listen up. "squawk box" returns with that and a lot more in just a moment. ♪ for tapping into a wealth of experience... for access to one of the top wealth management firms in the country... for a team of financial professionals who provide customized solutions... for all of your wealth management and retirement goals, discover how pnc wealth ma

orderry kissinger's world and the last part of the 6:00 hour we will spend with dr.history and future for america and europe. merkel's front and center in that debate. >> thank you so much, tom. "surveillance" starts 25 minutes from now. our next guest is hoping to provide a nap. they help you book local holiday adventures from your mobile phone. co ome to "the pulse your this is not booking flights. this is giving you experience. the weighted we travel has dramatically changed over the last six or seven years. >> we started with this simple idea. when you are back from a holiday, you don't remember your flight. if you do, it is for the wrong reason. you might remove your hotel if it was very nice. you remember the things you did. there is no brand for that. of theseno booking third segments. it is a very fragmented market. it is difficult to put together all of the interesting things you can do all around the world. there is not a service that you can use today in london and next year in paris or peru. >> there is one question that we ask all of our smart guys that