dr. kravitz? you can also call me tomorrow if you would like to discuss this further. >> president peterson will call the next item, item five, trudy maurer and peter linn versus the department of building inspection processing the issue on march 29 to joseph and sophfia new to erect a three story building on 1325 portola drive. this was continued to today to allow time for the planning department and permit holder to submit additional plans, with no additional briefing. we will give each party 3 minutes, starting with the permit holder. or your agent. please step forward. >> the issue here, i think, is the documents mr. frong asked -- mr. forn asked- -- mr. fong asked me to submit. they had it on file, but it was a very big copy. i was not aware i had to submit 12 copies. but it was included in the approved plan. i made those copies so each one would be able to review. i did not have to provide any additional documents due to the fact that we have discussed everything, i think. i do not know whet