dr. kvinick? go ahead.ness fascist in later life, and by "later life" i mean anything really over 50 or 55 is a real problem. so absolutely, what you said at the beginning about exercise-- you can't live without it and you can't live with it-- that's really true. we have to live with it, and ideally, if we're gonna live with it to some extent, we live with it in a way that makes us feel really good. yeah, but there's a part of all of this is, as we lose control of our lives, you know, it certainly even happens to younger people in a society that's out of control, the one thing that you can control is the shape of your body... the one thing you think you can control! but you can. you can when you're young. as you get older and you can control even less in the world, you're still trying to compete in this very false way. but is that a bad thing? i don't know. i don't know. is that a bad thing? not necessarily. i mean, i fully agree with you that as there's less and less that you can control, we try very hard