dr. leslie chow? and there's another doctor here and how did you find yvonne osborne? >> so we were reading the "new york times" and there's an article about a man, a doctor outside of washington, d.c. who had -- would basically be arrained for putting in way too many stints. and this article sort of explained again overtreatment and what one of the doctors quoted was the leading expert the head of cardiology at the cleveland clinic. so we gave him a call and asked him to be in our film and he agreed. and it's sort of through him that we learned more about the cleveland clinic. as really a model for health care. and in speaking with them we met dr. chow and yvonne osborne was one of dr. chow's patients. >> here's some more with yvonne osborne to continue that part of the story. >> how are you? >> i am great. >> look. >> i have lost since last year 21 pounds. >> oh, my god. >> yvonne came to see me when she was sort of at her wit's end. she had buy pass surgery at an early age. 27 catheter and well over 7 stints. this is just an unbelievable amount of stints and cardiac