dr. libicki the senior management scientist at rand.he's also a distinguished visiting professor at the naval academy and an adjunct professor at columbia university. he writes extensively on cybertopics including most relevant for today a publication called hackers bizarre markets for cybercrime tools and stolen data. to dr. libicki's right we have and he said. the director of public safety for verizon. he is at a variety of different roles including serving with united states secret service and his company also publishes one of the most widely respected reports on cyber crime for verizon data breach report. to his right we have dino dai zovi. he has been a working information security for over a decade with experience and red-teaming, penetration testing software security. that all basically means he is a hacker. in 2008 -- named him one of the 50 most influential people in security. finally we have rick howard who is the chief security officer for palo alto networks. he has had a variety of different jobs. he is currently providing o