them, when they see president hu jintao after their summit, to do what specifically with regard to dr. liu, who just received the nobel peace prize? >> we want them to release him from his imprisonment, but also that his wife be free so she can be at liberty to travel the world and talk about her husband and his ministry. he has been an outspoken and courageous human rights activist, as you know. we think neither she nor he should be punished for his freedom of speech. tavis: the chinese government's position is that his receiving the nobel prize was an insult to their country and to the rule of law inside of china. >> he had been arrested under chinese law and convicted of illegal activities and sentenced as a prisoner would be in our country to a crime. they consider him to be a criminal. i do not think there is any doubt that the nobel committee was trying to promote human rights in china. it was a deliberate attempt by them to publicize the need for recognition of him, as took place in the past with the dali lama, when the nobel committee also gave him the prize. they do this on occasi