dr. livingstone. examples of anf old investigation to remove anyone from an agency, any specific examples? mr. livingston: i know the investigation used against miami was an instrument to forward a complaint. those are two examples. rep. grothman: and how would you get yourself in trouble that they go after you? mr. livingston: anytime you go against the grain or report misconduct or say on paper, if you go against the favored misconductyou report , if you report sexual harassment, if you report security violations. if you do anything against the talk to your or anything -- the against the go grain, you identify yourself as a nonplayer. if you don't shut up, you don't move up. rep. grothman: for the mentality is not to do the best job they can, at what tsh should be doing. it is respect to the people at the top. mr. livingston: yes, and i come from the dod background of every day is a learning opportunity. we always do an exercise, we learned from that mistake. if you don't say something, you are consi