dr. lori, you said we're putting additional protocols in place. guidance, right?hen the most recent. >> the most recent has been in the last couple of days -- >> what about -- >> it was changed in response to the -- >> okay. you said airport screening, when were the new guidelines -- >> the funneling into live airports was last week. >> okay. i can tell you it's not working. all we have got to do is look at craig spencer. he was tested there. it's not working. he reported himself. and you see cases where -- again, we are not prepared still -- the whole -- part of this hearing is all about mr. roth's report. this is the inspector general's report, right? >> correct 1234689 >> didn't you just testify that in fact -- and it's in this, i think page 7 here, 200,000 respirators have gone beyond thir five-year manufacturing warranty -- >> the one at tsa -- >> on page 6, you said 84% of the hand sanitizer is expired that you tested. >> that's correct. >> so how do i tell the american people that we spent millions of dollars for a pandemic, and you just heard how important

dr. gabe kelen and lori garrett are with us.ned by senator roy blunt and democrat bob casey of pennsylvania. senator blunt, i want to begin with you. you are calling for a travel ban. there's a lot of -- it sounds like the white house would be supportive but they don't know how to implement it in a way that would prevent healthcare workers from getting to the hot zone. what do you say? >> we don't have flights directly in and out of any of these countries. all of our people go through some other country to get there anyway. the question is, do you let people come here from this area that is clearly stressed? one way to prevent that is not issue them a visa. they have to have a visa that allows them to stay here. i would suspend that until we have this under better control and have a sense that the carriers they are using are monitoring this in a better way than they have been up until now. >> senator casey, where are you on this? >> i don't think there's a medical consensus. we have to do everything we can to ask the medical exp

lori garrett. good to have both of you here. >> hi, david. >> everyone's very tuned into this very important and difficult issue right now. i'll start with you, dr. sacher, the white house says don't panic. is there a risk of an outbreak in the u.s.? could that happen? >> i would be very surprised, as i think most people in public health would if there were a serious risk of an outbreak in the u.s. i think we have the ability to detect ebola in a timely fashion despite what happened in texas. and i think we have the ability to contain it. and we have to realize that we're dealing with a situation, especially in west africa where the infrastructure leaves a lot to be desired and we need to invest a lot into supporting it. >> let's look at that infrastructure question. former white house adviser told "morning joe" this morning that the infrastructure is similar. take a listen to that. >> when people are examined and stuff, we now have universal precautions. it's possible, but very unlikely to transmit. remember, we have now, 30 years in this country of training with hiv and other infectious agents and we have put into effect very good infection co