dr. gee that loudoun and careen jaun pierre. thanks for being up with us. for a lot of americans, it was the first time they heard from mike pence, the vp candidate. >> i think he did a great job and i think the contrast going from ted cruz who was anything but states manly, anything but gracious, anything but what we wants a a party leader and then going to mike pence and confirms that he's first a christian, conservative and republican, and i thought it made a strong distinction between the factions. >> and confirming that i'm not well-known. >> and as you were watching ted cruz's speech, were you picking out elements that you could use no the testimony he can campaign? hillary clinton obviously her folks were, were they already are using it.hillary clinton ob folks were, were they already are using it. >> unfoornly trtunately the tru campaign stepped on on this once again. they knew ted cruz wasn't going to endorse and i don't understand why he would give him a prime time slot with the unknown. and we saw what happened last night. and so i think what it

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dr. gina loudoun and democratic strategist lauren sha say. thanks for being with us.a, one of the longest speeches in convention history. it seemed the main theme was keeping the country safe. >> yeah, and that resonates with everyone. everyone wants security. and they want national security. and i thought he reached a whole new level of self agadeprecatio and humility. there is no person if they watched that speech from start to finish didn't find something in there that was in there for them. and i was on the floor toward the california delegation and everyone was standing in their chairs holding up their signs, they were so excited about this speech. >> lauren, seemed like there was an attempt to reach out to different demographics, different groups. did you think that was successful? >> well, i think the question is where or not those groups think it was successful and i think there is unfortunately very little chance of that. it was extraordinary and unprecedented that he reached out or called out the lgbt lgbtq community and called on republicans to be tolerant

dr. gina loudoun. these kids are expressive.your daughter up there. >> up there. >> she made one of the impressive decisions. i won't talk about it. very good decision. >> oh, my god, sean. >> it's what i do for a living. >> this is about this speech. >> yes. >> you have impressive kids what does it say about a parent? >> it says so much about a parent. that is one of the -- that is something personal. when i i handled these things. there is a lot of candidates i liked. and i was praying about this. the message, you know people by their children. the children that donald trump -- >> every time my kids get in trouble. >> right. right. >> my parents were much better people than i am. they did not deserve me. >> i know tiffany. she's a great girl. i met her in atlanta. sometime ago. and she was just so down to earth and charming and i didn't know she was trump's daughter. and she is here, i thought she was a secretary. she was nice and friendly. i didn't know she was a daughter until i met her in new york. very impressive. >> don j