dr. marron is being honest when he said he was disappointed. a lot of people are upset there's almost no cost containment in this bill at all. >> jamie on the independent line. >> i think that a lot of president obama's views, they kind of get scattered and nobody really is the justice of what he's trying to do. i do hear a lot of folks calling in, and asking about the illegal immigrants and how the health care thing will apply to them. i think that in the past, president obama has addressed that. and what he said was, he said, part of the thing is, the children of the illegals, i think it's pretty -- on both sides, i think everybody understands that they're not going to be going anywhere. the thing of it is, to make them tax paying citizens, and the way to change that is to make them tax paying citizens. i do also hear the younger americans, those in their 20s and that kind of thing, asking why should they have to pay into something when they're young and healthy, and they would rather pay it as a bill. that's fine when it comes to a fractured