dr. marsha griffin, dr.ed pediatricians across the country come to the border so they can see conditions of what it is like for kids. it is the problem of taking kids from their parents. that's the problem. joining us now is dr. marsha griffin, she's also the coach chair of pediatrician group. dr. griffin, i have been looking forward to talking to you. thank you for being with me tonight. >> i have been looking forward to talk to you, too. >> thank you. i feel like like so many americans, our eyes are turning to the border region until the conditions of immigrants and immigrant kids and families are being held. if not for the first time and certainly for the first long sustained look. and i want to get a perspective from you on what we are seeing and hearing now and what the country is having such a revolted reaction to. how different is it from how things have been in the past? >> the difference, rachel, is only that they are separating the children methodically and it is planned. they separated their child