dr. mary frances berry. she's a former head of the civil rights commission, you civil rights commission. she's also, she's got a list of things she's done. she's been jailed for fighting against apartheid in south africa. the list goes on and on, but she's also the author of the book, "five dollars and a pork chop sandwich." she has a new book coming out, history teaches us to resist that. [applause] >> next to dr. mary frances berry, we have avis jones-deweever. she is a woman who is an activist, which is also the author of "how exceptional black woman lead." let's give her a big round of applause. [applause] >> next to avis jones-deweever we have wesley lowery, the national report from the "washington post" and the author of "they can't kill us all." let's give him a round of applause. [applause] >> that title alone leaves you thinking. and without further ado we want to introduce to you and economist, the president american of bennet college as well as the author of "are we better off" -- race, obama and

dr. mary frances berry talked about that should be on the tabling. >> first all, april, thank you for bringing us together. don't know anybody i admire more than mary frances berry. i don't. i just adore her. when i saw i was on the panel with her, thought, hey. i'm with you and all that but it's all about mary frances berry. >> thank you for bring us together and the work you have done, not only to continue the series but also to speak truth to power. i would ask you a question but don't answer. rhetorically, why don't sean spicer take his glad rags in a bag and go away. >> you told me not 0 -- not to answer. >> went to see the pope and wouldn't let him be blessed. >> congratulations. dr. ryan. morgan state conferred honorary doctorate. i'm proud of you for that and appreciate that. you know, feel like bobby womack sometimes. if you think you lonely now, wait until night, girl. [laughter] >> i was an obama critic, and i was like, barack, come back. but no, we are not better off. barack obama was a tremendous president. he was outstanding and amazing and also horribly constrained any number of