dr. matthew fox. you just got back from medical mexico and arizona. >> they really did a great job organizing this. a father from brazil lead it off and than i spoke. we then did a dialogue together. last time i saw him was 25 years ago when we were both silent for the pope. i went to see him. it was wonderful seeing him again. i was expelled by the pope or the cardinal. he left the francisco order the same year. he got became an angloton. then he started reinventing young people's languaging. >> okay. >> it was a beautiful experience to see these many people wrestling with the issues of values. the governor of the state was there. it was interesting to see the politicians together. >> what were some of the questions asked? >> well one of the question asked was is the catholic church losing out in south american? the boss said yes. he said he didn't regret it. he said sanity comes in many expressions and always has. beginning with the early church. we all see the gospel in different ways. i believe th