dr. william maxnor. he is at the university of north carolina at chapel hill. dr. maxnor comes today with significant experience in pain management research. christian beasley, the executive director of the national association will share with us her personal story with chronic pain, she was appointed to serve on the pain research coordinating committee at nih, the committee was formed to coordinator research. and next we have dr. john serno a professor at new york university medical center and practitioner at rusk rehabilitation medicine. the author of four books a pain will share his work with respect to treating chronic pain. i'll thank all of you for coming here, your statements will be made a part of the record in their entirety and i ask if you can sum up in five or seven minutes, it's probably a little light down there, i do not get nervous if it goes over, unless it's a long time, if you are summing up five, six, seven, eight minutes that is fine with me. like i said, your statements will be all made a part of the record in their entirety. please proceed. >>