dr. mcgarry, who has worked for dr. minyard... >> right. >> bergman: ...for many years, are his autopsies, his findings, a regular problem that you run into? >> yes, yes, they are. if i know that dr. mcgarry has done the autopsy, and if i know that it is an in-custody death, i am routinely going to do a second autopsy. because the information and the experience that we've had dealing with the office here is... is so unreliable. and... and we have found really shocking things when we've done those second autopsies. >> bergman: you know mary howell, right? >> oh, yeah. >> bergman: what she says is that there's a consistent series of cases, many handled by dr. mcgarry, where second autopsies showed that there was, in fact, a different cause of death... >> mm-hmm. >> bergman: ...than what he had. >> i have to believe what my pathologists say. i couldn't do this job if... if i didn't believe them point-blank, 100%, no questions. but mcgarry never has given me a reason, you know, not to believe him. >> bergman: but we have le