dr. melinda jackman from san jose state university. we've been talking a lot about the governor's race. to win but yet he still had so many ads out there. >> that's true especially in the bay area where he was almost a lock for sure. he wanted his face out to bay area votes are. >> it wasn't a close race. i think he wants to win as big as possible. the bigger his victory, the more power, the more leverage he has in sacramento. >>, quote unquote, mandate? >> exactly. more he can claim an electoral mandate. if the dras win a super majority again in the state legislature, we've really got a democratic coalition going forward. >> in a lot of ways all these ads you saw on television gavin new sml ran against president trump not so much john cox. >> well, the campaign for 2020 starts tomorrow morning i think so he may be signaling looking ahead. >> do you think that's the case? everyone says. >> there's been a lot of speculation. >> will he run in 2020 or wait till '24. >> i'm sure ellen joy being governor of california. we'll see how his plans evolve. >> stand by, melinda. >> we've been wait