dr. meltzer and my colleague here clyde crook, in this discussion of course we have sheila bair. we have laura tyson. larry summers. fred hockberg. i think i'm even missing someone there. gene spurling. yes. gene does not want to be forgotten, so gene will be here. and we will have this. but as a thank you to all of you as well, we've just decided to have a reception at the end with real drinks. and it's on us. i just felt like for those of you who are sticking this out with us, we want to make sure that you're welcome and join us up until that end. so i'll be back. without further adieu, please welcome my guests clive crook to have a conversation with allen meltze rerks. allen, thank you for being here. >> sure. thank you. [ applause ] >> well, this is quite a parade of talent that you've got unfolding in front of you. but i do want to commend this interviewee, allen meltze rerks. he really is one of the most eminent economic scholars in the world, an authority on monetary history, monetary economics, monetary policy and an author of a wonderful two-volume history of the federal