dr. merten, let's look at it from the student's perspective. can you get a college occasion without having your own computer today? >> guest: definitely not. either your own computer or access to computer. in our case, the students don't have just one computer, they have multiple computers. their world today, the world of a college student, even before, this computer is a device that helps them communicate, and it helps them in so many different ways. it is not something separate from who they are, it is what they are. they are constantly in communication with people. i think the universities in the past, some of them made mistakes by giving all the students the computer. >> host: y? >> guest: each different student has different needs, different wants, what you want to do is encourage them to bring their computer or computers with them to school. some may like one set of software and another may like another set of software. this idea to create homogeneity of devices was a mistake. most of them backed away from that. >> host: what do students