michael baden, a forensic pathologist, and he provided us with an affidavit and analysis. >> what board certifications do you have? >> three areas of pathology. anatomical pathology, pathological pathology, forensic pathology. >> i think drfute the knife very easily. it was a five-inch blade, the deepest wounds were 63/8 inches. there was a hilt on the knife. there would have been hilt marks for it to go 6 3/8 inches. i felt like wow i had this evidence that these two men were innocent. they're going to finally be freed. we're going to be able to actually conduct an investigation and try and find out who the real killers are. >> randy's incarceration had torn his family apart. randy's brother, state trooper rory steidl, believed randy was guilty. randy's mother wanted to see for herself, so she visited him behind bars. >> you see your mother's eyes, tears streaming down her cheeks. sits down. she said, you look at me right now. did you have anything to do with this at all? i looked her right in her eyes. and i said, mom, i've done some bad things in my life, but i've never done anything like this. you know i'm not capable of doing anything like this. as soon as i got that out of my mouth, she was up and out of that visit