dr. michael bodden, the private forensic pathologist who performed an autopsy on michael brown, is set to testify before the grand jury today. so what are we hearing about that? >> yeah, dr. bodden just went into the west justice center about 20 minutes ago. and the family hopes that by hearing an independent voice, again, dr. bodden performed an autopsy at the behest of the family. and it was one of the first of the autopsy reports that was actually released. so he hopes he'll go in that and testify for the grand jury and give him a clear picture, from their vantage point, of what seems to have happened. >> what we're watching there, tremaine lee, thank you so much. keep it right here on msnbc. we will bring you that news conference live as soon as it begins. >>> now to developments on capitol hill. two of the nation's top military officials set to begin testifying right now on u.s. efforts against the isis terror group. defense secretary chuck hagel and joint chiefs chairman general martin dempsey are in front of a house armed services committee. it's the first time we've heard from the

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dr. bodden to be able to come testify today finally allowed. >> today michael brown family attorneys saidr. bodden found one additional piece of evidence that a chest wound he thought was a re-entry wound is now determined to be an entry wound. can you confirm that. if so, what is the particular significance of that? >> well, he's probably -- in fact, he's talking about the wound to the right upper clavicle right here in this region. we had originally thought that the bullet continuation from the head wound above the right eye came out and re-entered. and now it is actually turns out to be a separate entry wound, which means -- we said at press conference, shot at least six times. now we know seven bullets hit michael brown. that can also give a different story because this particular wound, although it could have been a continuation, now it is a separate wound, this wound is an in a downward intrajection. michael brown would have been pretty much falling over, almost at or on the ground when that particular bullet went into his body. a lot of people made assumptions that the wounds to th

dr. michael bodden. he is also a fox news contributor. he became famous during the o.j. simpson trial. performed the private autopsy for the family in august. st. louis county investigators conducted their own, as did the justice department. what did the doctor tell the jurors, garrett? >> we know a little bit. all along we have heard very conflicting reports of just how it was that michael brown was shot. was he surrendering or was he the aggressor? autopsy reports are supposed to help investigators gate bert idea what happened in this case, dr. bodden's report matched win the medical examiner, except the county roz report found gunshot particulate on the teen0s thumb, meaning the shootos fired at close range. that supports officer darren wilson's reported account of the events that brown grabbed the officer's gun before it went off in a struggle. the body had already been cleaned by the time dr. bod 'performed his autopsy. the brun's family's attorney say he is requested to examine the tissue. >> where is the grand jury in the process? >> well, it's a 12-person jury, nine white, thre

dr. michael bodden's testimony isn't the only forensic account of michael brown's death grand jurors will hear. they'll also take into account the official report completed by the st. louis county medical examiner. each report reads some similar results. both concluded brown was shot at least six times. both show brown had a gunshot wound to his right hand. but where the reports differs is key and how it's interpreted could make a human difference in the case. the county report states materials were found on michael brown's hand, quote, consist e theent with products that are discharged from the barrel of a firearm. in other words, probable gun residue on brown's hand. >> the significant of that wound is great. >> reporter: dr. lawrence is a professor the forensic science at john j. college of criminal justice. >> for this testing i would say it's consistent with gunshot residue and supports the contention of darren wilson that there was a struggle for the gun. very close in shot. >> reporter: ferguson's police chief told cnn in august officer wilson was hurt during a struggle. >> the off

dr. michael bodden to go before the grand jury and offer his testimony on what he's gleamed from the autopsy's believed he is one of the last witnesses to go before the grand jury, which is a sign the decision, an announcement of the decision could be coming. law enforcement, they're hunkering down, preparing for what could be another round of protests. on the other side, protesters and supporters of michael brown's family, are also hunkering down and preparing. training last night, nonviolent civil disobedience. folks are preparing to meet police in the streets if need be but they're trying to do it peacefully. a different take of what we saw earlier on. >> what we saw early on, those peaceful protests turn violent. a lot of it due from people who came from out of state. is there a sense there are those troublemakers who are coming in from elsewhere who don't share that same desire to have peaceful protests? >> regardless of what the decision is, people may or may not be coming in from out of town. it's still unclear these kind of mysterious troublemakers, how many are there. we know that t

dr. michael bodden will be testifying before that jury tomorrow.mes and also said he saw no signs of struggle, big points of contention at this point. ron allen is following this. we really appreciate it. how does the fact that he's testifying fit into the bigger picture of evidence to this jury? >> reporter: we don't know what is in that big picture so rampant speculation of what this all might mean. it's opportunity for the prosecutor to say, look, we're leaving no stone unturned. we let the grand jury hear from the families, forensic expert. his interpretation of the evidence as we're trying to be fair and impartial, the prosecutor will probably argue when this is over, regardless of what the outcome of this is. so at this point, some of this is science. i don't think there's much dispute between the various autopsies that have been bodden's and one that was leaked that suggested michael brown was shot at least six times. the question is interpretation of what those wounds mean, what the angle was, what the direction was, how that comports with

dr. michael bodin in the private autopsy commissioned by michael brown's family. boddenaid he was a good assistant. parcells is not a doctor. we know he calls himself a forensic medical consultant, medical investigator and a professor. but is he what he says he is? >> you call yourself a professor? >> yes. >> where are you a professor? >> i'm an adjunct professor in topeka, kansas. >> but that, as far as we can tell, isn't accurate. we contacted washburn university, they say while he has spoken to nursing students he's not now, and never been an adjunct professor there. washburn university says that's not true. >> i have a contract that states it is true. >> can you show us that contract? >> i can. >> reporter: he never sent us that contract showing he was an adjunct professor. he said it was proprietary. >> i see him as a fraud to describe shawn parcells to me. >> manipulator. >> very good con artist. is the way i put it. >> reporter: in missouri grant and justin say shawn parcells performed an autopsy procedure in a criminal case without a doctor present. >> so he intr

dr. michael bodin in the private autopsy commissioned by michael brown's family. boddenid he was a good assistant. parcells is not a doctor. we know he calls himself a forensic medical consultant, medical investigator and a professor. but is he what he says he is? >> you call yourself a professor? >> yes. >> where are you a professor? >> i'm an adjunct professor in wash burn university, in topeka, kansas. >> but that, as far as we can tell, isn't accurate. we contacted washburn university, they say while he has spoken to nursing students he's not now, and never been an adjunct professor there. washburn university says that's not true. >> i have a contract that states it is true. >> can you show us that contract? >> i can. >> reporter: he never sent us that contract showing he was an adjunct professor. he said it was proprietary. >> i see him as a fraud to the best word i would say describes shawn parcells to me. >> how about you? >> manipulator. >> very good con artist. is the way i put it. >> reporter: in missouri deputy sheriffs grant and justin say shawn parcells perf

michael brown. again, we don't agree with this process. we think he should be charged and it should all be vetted out. nobody is cross examining dr. boddenthe constitution says we have the right to face the evidence and the witnesses against us. >> but dr. bodden's autopsy report, is that consistent with the other autopsy done by the county? >> as far as we know now, wolf. but we think there are going to be some stuff after he gets a chance to look at everything, there may be new relevant information. so that's the problem with having this secret proceeding. you don't know who is saying what and you can't vet it. and so in this situation in ferguson, wolf, as we talked about often, there's a great mistrust with the citizens of ferguson and people across america. and so what would be better than to have it very transparent where everybody can see everything. dr. bodden wants to see everything. he's not been allowed to see everything. the public isn't alouled to see everything. when the decision comes out, people may not accept it. >> you're a lawyer. grand jury testimony is secret. >> that's the problem. it didn't have to be a grand jury.

dr. bodden couldn't figure out if he was coming at the officer or going. i want to follow up on one thing that midwin said. the testimony that we know of is that michael brown was 25 to 30 feet away from the officer when the officer gets outside of the car. he can cover that ground in maybe 2.5 to 3 seconds. michael brown if he's coming at the officer. so the officer, literally, maybe has a second by the time he thinks about what he's going to do to decide, do i shoot or do i run away? he's not no other choice. it's a very quick decision by the officer. >> but there's so many other factors here. in other words, why get out of the car? remember, he's the armed officer with training, with experience and considerably older than michael brown. >> who is legally authorized to initiate an arrest or authorize force. >> remember, is he a cop. it's his job to stop bad guys. >> of course. >> if these allegations are true, this bad guy may have just tried to get his gun and this bad guy may have just done an armed robbery. >> but that's a lot of may. >> sadly, that's -- >> may is the benefit of the defense. if we talk about may -- >> the mays go the other way, a