dr. mitchell on that point. dr. mitchell was not able to meet with us here this sunday morning so i pretaped an interview with him ahead of time. one note in the interview i called the organization he founded the institute of noetic sciences school. dr. mitchell that i refer to it as a center for research. i wanted to point my error out to you ahead of time. dr. ed mitchell, last crew member of "apollo 14" to walk on the earth. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, scott. a pleasure to be with you. >> an honor to be with you. let's start with the more recent news that president obama has discussed this idea of canceling the latest missions that would have gone to the moon. the next set of missions. what was your reaction to that? >> i'm disappointed. however, there were problems with the technologies that were coming along. i understand. i'm not close to them. and also the president has an enormous task of rebuilding our economy and so i understand that that's his prime objective. however, recent developments from

mitchell, dr. walterters and jones the testimony. whether you are in washington, los angeles, atlanta, you encounter a young brother on the corner that is unemployed, may feel kids, and is feeling the pressures of being unemployed. someone like myself or any of us sitting here say to them "invest in yourself, get an education." some of the things mr. mitchell said would help. what message do we be conveying to these young people as they are out there dealing with the challenges? what tools could we devise to help them up front? they are an ex-felon, unemployed, have a baby to feed, and dealing with the family pressures. what are your reactions to that question? >> i guess what i say, and i've had these conversations with family members and former classmates, the absolute first thing is do not make bad matters worse. not come out of desperation, add to the felony conviction another conviction the second thing -- conviction. the second thing i say is to be patient, particularly if it is a friend or family member. they can provide assis

mitchell, dr. walters and mr. jones for their testimony here this evening. one of the questions i have, whether you are los angeles or washington d.c., atlanta, florida, it does not really matter. you encounter as a young brother -- you encounter a young brother on the corner, he may have kids, and is feeling the pressures f. being unemployed. and someone like myself sitting here will say, invest in yourself, get an education. but they are ex felon. what message should we be conveying to these young people as they are out there dealing with those challenges? what tools could we provide them to help them up front, knowing that they're rednecks felon, unemployed, have a baby to feed -- knowing that they are an ex- felon, unemployed, have a baby to feed? >> thank you for these questions. what i say -- and i've had these conversations with family members and former classmates -- the absolute first thing is, do not make bad matters worse. do not out of desperation at to the felony conviction another conviction. -- add to that felony conviction another conviction.

dr. newburgh has scanned the brains of people of all faiths, those of no faith and those of deskrigs. like donna mitchell. in. >> when you're in that realm of praise, you just give over to the holy spirit. >> reporter: there are some people who argue that certain people are predisposed or hard wires toward trance sent don't experiences, and some are not. it's an argument that the chaplain disagrees with. >> i don't believe in a god that creates people, especially selectively in a way that makes it difficult for them to access this god. that's not my god. >> i think to some degree we all are hard wired to be able to think about things on these levels. it's just a matter of how much we engage that and if we find a path that does help us to engage that for ourselves. >> reporter: newberg says people of faith should never worry that research would every diminish our faith. >> i don't think that science is going to definitively proof that god exists or doesn't exist. >> newberg believes the number one activity that can exercise your brain and enrich your life is faith. >> when you have those kind of positive,

dr. gerald beginning hgi. mr. robert gilford. mr. ben bouldousa. mr. dave redly. mr. kevin mitchell. mr. colin more. of the interactive travel services association and consumer science as well. with that, i will now recognize dr. dillingham. we would ask that you summarize iyour written testimony that you have submitted and tried to summarize your statement in 5 minute so that we will have time to ask questions. with that, the chair recognizes dr. deleon. -- dr. dillinham. > >> a full report was published this morning on the website. the study addressed four four questions. first, what are the nature and scope of these fees? second, what is the potential impact of such fees on revenues used to help fund faa through the trust fund? third, how they affected the number of objects bags and mishandled bags? lastly, what processes are available for refunding government-imposed taxes and fees to passengers who did not use a non-refundable ticket with regard to the nature and scope of the ps? starting in 2007, airlines began to charge for many services for which separate charges and not previously exist, su