it seems sort of funny, but when you look at children's authors, like morris sendak, a whole lot of them, they are all like dr. seuss. it is that sort of distance that makes us really admire the kind of thing that also makes you very strange. i think that is what we have to take on. the children's blog rights are profoundly about their bodies. norts are neither utopian extraneous, but practical especially in the case of children and i think that horton remains a safe pair of that message. >> hello, thank you for having me. i want to initially thank richard, my former colleague who i still miss every day at georgetown. ,nd the other marvelous richard richard sherwin, whose work i greatly admire. thank you all so new york law school the law review for having me here. actuallynt to say follows quite well from what ann was talking about. i do want to talk about children. my talk is tentatively titled " democratic children, democratic hearing." richard ch to use there are layers to his stories that will frame what i want to say. i want to set up what i think is a primary narrative inhorton. more accessible narrati