and the right food, a little peanut butter, apple, and banana. [ applause ] >> wait, wait, what dr. ordon to mention, when you have rodents it doesn't mean you are messy or sloppy or dirty. we have all had problems, it just means they're getting into your house somehow. >> and rodents, the reason we are talking about them, they are a reservoir for illness. many, many respiratatory illnesses, have you heard of bubonic plague, it killed half of europe? rats. rodents are the reservoir for that. and there have been cases of this in the u.s., recently. and that's why taking care of your rodent problem can help prevent illnesses from occurring. and the reason we are saying, go with the professionals, the glues and the pellets can be dangerous for the kids. >> kids and pets. those are the caviats. if you set these for yourself, and if there's only adults around, you will probably not get in trouble, but if you have to worry about pets and kids, it's a different playing field. >> there's a comment about sticky pads, the exterminators will talk to you. we had a vacation house in north carolina, th