dr. ron paul. dr. paul, welcome back to "meet the press." >> thank you.to be with you. >> let's get right to your plan. this week you unveiled a plan to cut the deficit and deal with the economy. the key elements of it is that you want to cut $1 trillion of spending in the first year. to do that you would eliminate five cabinet departments, energy, housing and urban development, commerce, interior, and education. on monday in las vegas you unveiled a plan and this is what you said about it. >> i have a personal conviction that this will not hurt anybody. you have government spending. that goes back to you. >> how is that possible that a draconian cut like this would not hurt anybody, particularly in this economy? >> because we have to take this money from the economy, and the fewer politicians get to spend it, so that's a negative. it hurts the economy. after world war ii, we cut spending by 60%, and cut taxes. 10 billion people came home. and all the money and the expenditures went back to the people, and that was finally, we got over the depression, by

on friday dr. paul he thinks michael jackson gave himself a fatal dose of propofol, saying it is the only explanation based on the evidence. dr. murray has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter. >>> police will step up patrols this halloween after another alleged attempted a reduction in a spotsylvania county. all three incidents occurred in the fredericksburg area. the latest on saturday along innisbrook circle. a group of men ask a 20-year-old woman to get in their car. this report came -- the first report was little more than a week ago and the second on tuesday. police have not said whether there is a link between them. >>> parking restrictions and street closures will begin at 4:00 this afternoon and will last until 6:00 a.m. tomorrow. k street and m street goand cotton ave. and sidestreets will be closed. >>> president obama will spend the holiday in a private meeting with the former british prime minister tony blair. but on the weekend the lighthouse was lit up with holiday spirit. the p

meanwhile, direct examination continues of the final witness, dr. paulght, known as the father of propofol. using new computer models and bottles of propofol, white demonstrated why dr. murray is not responsible for michael jackson's death. >> it's what it suggests. it's what dr. murray said he did. it's certainly a very safe way to do it. >> reporter: he disputed the propofol expert who claimed dr. murray gave michael jackson propofol through an i.v. drip. >> shafer said his scenario reconciled with all the facts in this case. i want you to tell me, does it reconcile with dr. murray's statement? >> no. >> does it reconcile with the physical evidence found at the scene? >> no. >> does it reconcile with the urine concentration found at autopsy? >> no. >> reporter: the defense contends jackson was an addict so desperate for sleep he gave himself the deadly dose of propofol. have they swayed the jury, i don't think so but they at least scored points in the world of theater and dramatics. cross-examination of dr. paul white begins on monday. stephanie stanto

monday, defense attorneys called prison expert dr. paul johnson, to testify about the effects of a sentence of life in prison without parole. >> life without parole and the death penalty are both death sentences. i call life without parole, death by incarceration. because you're sentencing the person to die in incarceration. in one case, in the lethal injection chamber, and the other case, by either natural causes or violence, but they both amount to death sentences. >> reporter: several were also called to testify about bishop's troubled childhood, saying it resulted in a border line personality disorder. >> and defense attorneys will continue to try to pull at the heartstrings of jurors. they will remind the jury that bishop has five young daughters and they will call a number of his family members to testify about how much he is loved. testimony in this sentencing phase of the trial resumes tomorrow. live in harford county, derek valcourt, wjz eyewitness news. >> prosecutors will also seek the death penalty in carla porter in her trial.

>> first of all, you mentioned dr. paul white. he and dr. schaefer used to be very good friends.agues at columbia. they have known each other for 30 years. now there is a falling out that's coming because of this case. schaefer was on the stand for the last week. he'll probably end up on monday and at some point when the defense gain begins their case, you will have dr. paul white on the stand who will basically say probably what the opposite of what dr. steven schaefer said. so it will be quite an interesting comparison to see those two. the defense case. we expect to begin the first part of next week and most likely could end -- could by the end of next week. but all depends on the schedule. as we know with this case, nothing has been ordinary. harris? >> harris: that's for sure. adam housley, thank you very much. student protesters clashing with police, storming a government building and coming face-to-face with lawmakers to call for change. it's our top story as we go around the world in 80 seconds. chile. chaos in the streets of the capitol city, santiago, thousands of peopl

. >> reporter: expected to be the final witness of the conrad murray trial, dr. paul white is a renowned anesthesiologist who's known as father of propofol. testifying for the defense, white made it clear to know he's not excusing dr. murray. >> the elephant in the room being conrad murray accused of infusing propofol and leaving this patient. can you justify that? >> absolutely not. >> reporter: white's roll is to rebutt the testimony of the prosecution's key propofol expert, dr. steven schaeffer. he says the amount of propofol given to michael jackson could be wrong based on a previous study we worked on together. >> the solid line is dr. sheriff's modeling of the fharmacokinetics and you can see it underpredicted the blood levels. >> reporter: the other witness was dr. waldman who said he believes michael jackson was addicted to demerol and the withdrawal caused his crippling. sometimes he clashed. >> i'm talking about the chart. >> where did the chart come from? >> you. >> i have no idea. >> excuse me -- >> this is a fascinating k colloquy but we have questions an

dr. paul white is testifying on behalf of dr. conrad murray. the prosecution argues that jackson died after murray injected him with propofol but dr. white testified that jackson may have accidentally killed himself. >> i thought that there were questions if in fact murray had administered the drugs that he described in his conversations with the police department and in doses that he described, i would not have expected michael jackson to have died. >> closing arguments are expected to begin next week. >>> fans are calling game six of the world series one of the most exciting games ever. the texas rangers were trying to win their first world series title and they came oh, so close. the cardinals were down to their last strike twice. but never gave up. didn't stay up for the unbelievable finish? don't worry. here's what's happened. bottom of the ninth, cardinals down to their last strike and down two runs. david freeze, the guy hits a shot into right field. two runs score. game tied. remember

dr. paul white, an expert on propofol, the powerful anesthetic believed to have stopped michael jackson's heart. on the stand dr. white, testifying for the defense, told the jury he believes michael jackson injected himself with the fatal dose of propofol, not realizing it would kill him. he disputes the state's theory that murray gave jackson a slow iv drip or infusion of propofol over three hours. >> i cannot understand how it's possible that he got a three-hour infusion when the evidence didn't show the infusion set up. >> so you think it was a self-injection of propofol near the hour of between 11:30 and 12:00 that did it? >> in my opinion, yes. >> reporter: if that's true, the timeline fits. it was around noon, june 25th, 2009 that conrad murray says he first noticed jackson had stopped breathing. here's what dr. white is basing his conclusion on. first, he says the propofol bottle found in jackson's bedroom appeared as though it was never hung up at the scene, so it could not have been p

>> well, we're talking about dr. paulanesthesiologist but an expert on propofol. but what he really needed to do was to dispute the testimony from the prosecution's expert anesthesiologist, dr. steven schaefer. he said that the only scenario that fits is that michael jackson was on an iv propofol drip for more than three hours before dr. conrad murray even knew that he had stopped breathing. dr. paul white doesn't buy that at all saying that dr. murray never abandoned his patient. listen to what he said in court. >> this deal immediately with the elephant in the room here. >> elephant in the room. okay. >> the elephant in the room being, conrad murray has been accused of infusing a dose of propofol and leaving this patient. can you justify that? >> absolutely not. >> now, this witness really could make or break the case for dr. murray. i mean, the defense really put him on the stand to prove that michael jackson was an experienced drug user who may have even known how to use a syringe and may have injected himself, may ha

this is the defense's final witness, dr. paul white.a listen to what he said and talk about it on the other side. >> if, in fact, murray had administered the drugs he had described in his conversations with the police department and the doses he subscribed, i would not have expected michael jackson to have died. >> how far does this go in discrediting the prosecution's theory that dr. murray injected the fatal dose of propofol? >> the defense is looking for one juror here. they don't really expect an acquittal of 12 jurors voting not guilty, but if they get one juror, they get a hung jury, so the idea is to inject reasonable doubt into this case, and dr. white has the potential to inject such doubt. >> you called us a few weeks ago and said it would come down to a battle of the experts. how are jurors going to be able to determine which expert is the most credible? >> well, the jurors are always told they bring their common sense into the jury room and must assess the credibility of experts in the same way they would do with other witne

dr. paull be at the witness stand expected to be there later today. >>> months away from filing taxes. that hasn't stopped scammers from getting ahead with fraud. why the bbb says be aware of the emails claiming you are due another refund. they are accused of locking four mentally disabled people in the basement for years. three of the suspects will face a judge. gabby giffords is set to undergo therapy. why doctors are calling her road to recovery miraculous.

. >> reporter: dr. paul skelly is florida's lead scientist driving the hunt to find then freeze to death every last snail. how long do you think florida could be dealing with this latest outbreak? >> oh, it's already-- we're planning years. >> another one. >> reporter: it took nearly a decade and a million dollars to eradicate the state's last infestation in the 1960s. there are fears this one could stretch beyond florida. >> they can move, actually, in yard debris, yard waste, and garbage, move to landfills. >> reporter: at home, ryan kesser discovers new snails almost daily but because one snail can lay up to 1200 eggs a year, he, like others in the search, may find it hard to keep up, even with the pest moving at a snail's pace. >> mason: and ahead, the dog owners' action group that's giving politicians pause. that story is next. >> mason: finally this evening, they say every dog has its day. well, in san francisco, a growing group of politically minded dog owners certainly hope it's true for them. here's

dr. paulved to have stopped michael jackson's heart. on the stand dr. white, testifying for the defense, told the jury he believes michael jackson injected himself with the fatal dose of propofol, not realizing it would kill him. he disputes the state's theory that murray gave jackson a slow iv drip or infusion of propofol over three hours. >> i cannot understand how it's possible that he got a three-hour infusion when the evidence didn't show the infusion set up. >> so you think it was a self-injection of propofol near the hour of between 11:30 and 12:00 that did it? >> in my opinion, yes. >> reporter: if that's true, the timeline fits. it was around noon, june 25th, 2009 that conrad murray says he first noticed jackson had stopped breathing. here's what dr. white is basing his conclusion on. first, he says the propofol bottle found in jackson's bedroom appeared as though it was never hung up at the scene, so it could not have been part of an iv drip. >> what is there about that propofol bott

dr. paulem fol. dr. conrad murray's defense team is relying on him to cast enoug doubt on the prosecution's case to acquit their client. what he said today about how the fatal dose of the drug got into michael jackson's body could be a game changer in the case. here's randi kaye. >> reporter: if conrad murray escapes conviction, he may have this man to thank. dr. paul white, an expert on propofol, the powerful anesthetic believed to have stopped michael jarngskchael ja. on the stand dr. white, testifying for the defense, told the jury he believes michael jackson injected himself with the fatal dose of propofol, not realizing it would kill him. he disputes the state's theory that murray gave jackson a slow iv drip or infusion of propofol over three hours. >> i cannot understand how it's possible that he got a three-hour infusion when the evidence didn't show the infusion set up. >> so you think it was a self-injection of propofol near the hour of between 11:30 and 12:00 that did it? >> in my op

yeah, that expert for the defense, dr. paulan with a half day on thursday they having -- testifying and during direct examination and a half day on friday. the judge gave the prosecution the weekend to prepare for cross-examination which i'm told has just begin literally in the last two minutes inside the courthouse here. paul white, of course, says that michael jackson he believes put himself in the situation by ingesting one drug and putting propofol in his system himself while the prosecution's expert says it was a continuous drip of propofol that dr. murray had given michael jackson and then left the room, that eventually caused his death. now, of course, the jury will have to decide between the two of those. we know that part of the jackson family has come to here these final days. nobody knows how long this will go. the defense is expected to rest their case. if they don't for some reason and throw everybody a curve ball and dr. murray takes the stand, if that doesn't happen, which is expected he won't, then the prosecuti

but i do think that dr. paulwants here, and that is that alternative theory on specifically how michael jackson died, with a self-imposed syringeful of propofol. i don't think that had much to do with that decision by murray or lack of decision. >> so how much longer do you think this goes? i know you said the judge had said, hey, dr. murray, you need to make a decision by tomorrow in terms of testifying. jurors were told this would end by the end of the week, though. do you think this now looks like it could go longer? >> yeah, absolutely. now we're looking at maybe going all the way through this week, possibly into next week. and i can tell you this watching these jurors, they are not happy about it. on friday, when the judge dismissed them early, one juror actually crossed his arm and rolled his eyes. they're getting tired, i think. so we'll find out tomorrow about murray. if he doesn't take the stand, we'll be done by the end of the week. >> well, ted, we'll be talking to you. thank you. >>> it's been a year

dr. paul white, who says dr.y have just forgotten a detail when he did not tell emergency room doctors he was giving michael jackson propofol. >> it was obviously overlooked. he didn't -- >> well, not obviously, it could also be a lie, correct? correct? that's another option. >> if you say so, i guess, yeah. >> reporter: deputy d.a. walgren back on the attack over dr. murray's delay in dialing 911, because the jackson mansion had no land line. >> conrad murray had a cell phone in his hand by his own statement. are you saying he was not capable of pushing 911? >> reporter: in the end, the expert who helped dr. murray so much last week, explaining how jackson could have taken his own life, today conceded dr. murray should never have taken the job. >> it's something that no amount of money could convince me to accept or take on as a responsibility. >> reporter: it became so combative today the judge had to step in, fining dr. white $1,000 for not responding to the prosecutor's questions directly. >> and the judge di

dr. paul white is likely to face tough questions from the prosecutor was granted extra time to prepare for today's cross-examination. >>darya: of an off-duty police officers led other officers on a 120 mi. per hour car chase. when he was pulled over he said he was running late for a part-time job. >>darya: this big explosion shook the ground and sent a fireball into the air. >>mark: the 49ers are off to their best start in years. for game lead in the nfc west. michael crab tree got his first touchdown reception. the 49ers one against the cleveland browns. the team is incredibly 6-1. >>james: we cannot call the giants world series chance anymore. cardinals fans lined the streets yesterday for the team's victory parade. they beat the texas rangers 6-2 in game 7. this marks the team's 11th title in franchise history which is second only to the new york yankees. >>darya: i was waiting for the stanford highlights. >>mark: one of the best football games ever. >>darya: triple overtime. we will talk t

now, dr. paul white doesn't buy that at all. he says that dr. murray never abandoned his patient.hat he said in court. >> this, let's deal immediately with the elephant in the room here. >> elephant in the room? >> the elephant in the room being conrad murray has been accused of infusing a dose of propofol, and leaving his patient. can you justify that? >> absolutely not. >> now, this witness really could make or break the case for dr. murray. i mean, the defense really put him on the stand to prove that michael jackson was an experienced drug user who may have even known how to use a syringe and may have injected himself, may have overdosed on his own, by accident. he was also there, really, to toss some water on the prosecution's theory that dr. murray used an iv drip or an infusion to give michael jackson enough propofol to stop his heart. here's more of today's testimony. >> i read all these documents and i was somewhat perplexed as to how the determination had been made by essentially all of the experts that dr. murray was infusing propofol. because in my examination of the d

. >> reporter: when court resumes, we expect to hear from the defense star witness, dr. paul white. propofol expert that they'll use to combat the state's case that dr. conrad murray overdosed michael jackson with propofol. yesterday in court it was a very emotional day, specifically for dr. conrad murray who broke down a few times listening to character witnesses. these were all patients brought in to basically tell the jury that dr. murray was an excellent doctor. >> i know his love, compassion, feelings for his patients. he's the best doctor i've ever been to because of the treatment, because of the clarity of what he's doing. and the follow-ups. and i just don't think he did what he's been accused of. >> the defense is using these character witnesses for two basic reasons. first to build murray up as a competent physician. the other reason is to dissuade the jurors' notion he was in this for the money. specifically they had a few of these character witnesses talk about murray's practice in an underserved area in houston, texas. >> if this man had been greedy, he never would have

that would be dr. paul white. he rejected the prosecution's theory on how jackson died. >> if, in fact, murray had administered the drugs that he described in his conversations with the police department and the doses that he described, i would not have expected michael jackson to have died. >> dr. white could conclude his testimony today but the prosecution won't start its cross-examination until next week. >>> in health news this morning, many people take asprirn to prevent heart attack and stroke and now british researchers have found it may have another big benefit. >> reporter: don maxton was with his mother when she was diagnosed with colon cancer. >> they checked her out right aaand they could tell there was something, there was something wrong. we expected colon cancer at that point. >> reporter: his family history puts him at higher risk at getting the disease but now british scientists have found a very common drug may be able to cut that risk. >> we set out to try to see if it would prevent -- and today

dr. paul white on the stand. the self-described father of propofol. he literally wrote the book on it. >> if, in fact, murray had administered the drugs he described in his conversations with the police department and in the doses that he described, i would not have expecteded michael jackson to have died. ♪ >> reporter: the defense argument that michael jackson, a worldwide superstar was actually a secret drug addict. not only hooked on propofol but painkillers, too, and dr. murray had no idea. >> i believe there is evidence he was dependent upon demerol. >> reporter: murray's lawyers blame another doctor for his addiction, jackson's dermatologist arnold klein. according to dr. klein's medical records, jackson received more than 20 injections of demerol from april to june of 2009, often getting several shots in a single week, one just three days before his death. >> you would consider this very high use? >> very high. >> reporter: dr. klein denied the allegations. on cross-examination, the prosecutor fought back. >> are you board certified in addicti