dr. pon thank you. chairman, ranking member, as the chairman and ranking member we are deferring our questions to the end. i want to be able to recognize the senator for questions. >> thank you, chair and ranking member and thank you ms. murphy and mr. pon for being here and for your work on behalf of the american people. i wanted to start with the question to both of you, as i said last week, we all share the priority of working toward a more efficient and effective federal government, and i know when we've met before, we've talked about this. i think this plan can be a starting point for an important conversation about how to reorganize the federal government, but as we all know, the devil is in the details; right? as governor, i propose changes to the structure of our state's government, and so i appreciate the challenges that come along with this kind of proposal. on this opm and gsa recommendation specifically, i'm curious to hear where the idea came from. we spoke last week in our heari