dr. ratcliff is this is an all natural product when it is not. maybe, great ratcliff, it is more about labeling practices than actually givingving pr supplements. >> correct. and it something says 10 milligrams it is 10 milligrams. there is no way to know. we don't have to report to the fda. >> i think 150 million americans, carol, takeca supplements of some form.n >> hold on a second. i am one of those.>> >> oh my goodness. you look like one of my patients. >> this is me. this cost me $1400 a month to do this. m this ions taken over to prescription, i am not able to afford being healthy. it is what i need to stay healthy. so what is going to happen to other people?r pe i saved my pennies since ii st started working and people say i have the first dollar i ever earned and spending it ont supplements. this is me monthly. what am i going to do? >> the cost will go up 300%. up >> part of the problem when30 you don't regulate something people don't think it is dangerous. sometimes these supplements are sold next to a pack of s gum. is that safe? >> g

dr. nina ratcliff. thank you both for being with us. david, i'm going to start with you, you have about 40 employees, and you pay their health care premiums. what effect will obama care or does obama care have on you and your employees? >> well, the effect it has had already is the premiums skyrocketing in our case. so what we had to do is we could not afford the way the economy has been the last four years to absorb that cost, so you had to pass that cost along to the employee who is the life-blood of a small business. well, they couldn't afford it either, so what you ended up doing was taking at one time a really great policy and now you've knocked it down to where it's really a super high deductible policy with all these broken down deductibles. and it's a great policy if you don't get sick, if you don't have to see the doctor, if you don't have to go to the hospital, but you know, all of us who paid the bills before, god forbid we get sick now because we have to support the rest of the world. >> let me ask you this, how long have yo

dr. nina ratcliff. dr. ratcliff, i would like to start with you. you are for prescription supplements. why? >> regulation is a four letter word. nobody wants to be regulated. in this sense it's about patient safety. not a right for patients to choose between having a coke and a pepsi. it's about a patient's right to be not injured and not be harmed. >> people are dying from vitamin c? >> not vitamin c. over supplement. >> you're not talking about vitamins and minerals, per se. what you're talking about is say you want to build your muscles or become thinner, whatever, those kind of things, products that have multiple ingredients. >> they say it's all natural. it's a great marketing tool because who doesn't want to be all natural. we equate that with being healthy. no one wants to say we have something chemically made and it's good for you. >> doctor, you're against supplements becoming a prescription item. tell me why. what is dr. radcliffe saying that you disagree with? >> what i disagree with is they're really not that dangerous, carol. we have the act of 1994 and that's an fda act.

dr. nina ratcliff. what is mrsa? >> mrsa is a type of staphylococcus infection.possible that one of us carries it. mrsa is a special type of strain where 2% of the people has it and it's resistant to a number of antibiotics. >> you find it in nursing homes, the hospital, staph infection basically. >> exactly. what we're seeing is a surfacing within places where you have contact sports, nfl, wrestling. >> should they play this game then? >> absolutely. i'm not a wise guy when it comes to wagering. i'm going to place a straight bet that it's no problem. >> they're going to play the game. one of the guys that has it for the buccaneers, he has it, a defense, cornerback. no concerns for the eagles and the buccaneers? >> it's spread through direct contact. he has to be in contact with somebody else and there be an open wound. >> they're going to be in contact. they're slamming into each other. >> correct. he's going to have his wound covered up. they also have their uniforms. it's unlikely that this will spread. >> you make sure you wash your hands. give me tips to kee