dr. richard jorgenson is a coroner in illinois and thanks for joining us when did you first notice problemsur county and how bad has it gotten by your estimation? >> well i was a practicing physician in dupage county since 1985 and seen it from the physician's viewpoint but became coroner in november of 2012 and immediately saw that there was an increasing number of heroin deaths in early 2013 and it really hit home in the summer of 2013 when during july we had 18 drug overdose deaths during and after the 4th of july weekend and 11 of those were heroin overdoses so we literally had a person come in to our morgue everyday from a drug overdose. >> what in your mind is causing that explosion of heroin use? >> well, i think you have covered it very well in that we are physically very close to a highway that dumps off into a place where people can get very cheap and very very strong heroin. so that is something new and it's based on the fact that chicago is a distribution center for all kinds of goods including heroin. but secondly we have a new complacency about the idea of drugs and of strong